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Barbara L
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New Zealand
26 Posts

Posted - 28/08/2009 :  08:32:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another mystery solved!
I have a lot to learn.
So Mina's sister actually left before her.As she is a foster child ,can I assume both parents had died?
So far,I have only managed to find two of Mina's companions on NZ records-we don't have anything free of charge online,other than records that volunteers have transcribed.I would need to buy the marriage and death certificates to be sure.Also,there is no "wildcard" search,so will have to try all variations of spelling (and mis-spelling)
Many thanks
Barbara
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davidmcalister
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New Zealand
2 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2012 :  01:07:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Barbara L. Karl Heidenstrom was my Great grandfather. I do know that my great grandmother was mina. If you have completed your research I would be delighted to see the family tree. my grandmother was elsie, twin sister of hilda. rgds david
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Barbara L
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New Zealand
26 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2012 :  01:31:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello David
Hopefully third time lucky
I tried all day yesterday to get on to this board without sucess,and then forgot my password.
I am happy to share what I have with you about this family.but there have been a couple of disasters in the last few years.My genealogy programme refuses to recognise this particular tree,but I still have all my notes and the story I wrote for my friend.
If you'd care to give me an email address,I could contact you offline and explain further.
Regards
Barbara
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davidmcalister
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New Zealand
2 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2012 :  04:18:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thks barbara david.mary@xtra.co.nz
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ebolsen
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Norway
4 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2012 :  21:51:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello, I become very interested when I saw you asked for information regarding Karl Peter Severin Heidenstrom. I think i have found the correct information and that one of his daughers, Inger Margrethe Heidenstrøm, was married to my old grandfather Hakon Alfred Olsen. Their son Harald Marinius Eugen Olsen is my grandfathers dad, and I would like to know if you have information that can confirm I have found the correct link? I am now trying to find out if Harald Marinius had any siblings, and if they had kids and so on. I also think Harald Marinius had a daughter from his first marriage, Bergliot Anabel Solvig Olsen. Thanks for your reply.
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Barbara L
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New Zealand
26 Posts

Posted - 13/09/2012 :  07:09:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello
As far as I know,Karl had two sons and a daughter,but because I was trying to concentrate on the period of Karl's life after he arrived in New Zealand,I didn't even look at what happened to his children after he left Norway.I couldn't even find proof of his first wife's death.So I would be very interested to know what you have found.His daughter was definitely Inger Margrethe Heidenstrom,and though it is possible there are others with the same name,it sounds very likely.
I have just re-typed the NZ family tree for David and would be happy to share that with you if we can substantiate the link. Inger was born 19 November 1859 -does that tie in with your records?
Two contacts in two months -very exciting!
Barbara
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ebolsen
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Norway
4 Posts

Posted - 13/09/2012 :  22:27:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have sent you an e-mail. Just wanted to say it here just in case it didnt come through :-)
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shirleylauchlan
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New Zealand
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Posted - 12/10/2012 :  22:50:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am a grand-daughter of Hanne Moller. Hanne was the eldest daughter of Mina and Reinert. When Mina married Karl she had nine children with him. Eight daughters and finally a son. They lived in Holloway Road in Wellington and as Mina ws a midwife she delivered a lot of babies in Holloway Road. I can remember meeting my father's twin aunties - Hilda and Elsie.
I was unaware that Karl had been previously married; nor did I know that Mina and her sister were fostered. Has anyone traced the sister who emigrated to USA?
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Barbara L
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New Zealand
26 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2012 :  01:15:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Shirley
It's been an eventful couple of months for my research into the Heidenstrom family. Yes,I believe my friend told me that Mina delivered her own children as well as her grandchildren,so she would have been busy.
I have very little else on Hanne and her sister apart from who they married,electoral rolls etc.Mainly because I haven't had time - I'd be interested to know anything else that has passed dowm the family.Also haven't looked for Ambrosia in the USA,though that shouldn't be too difficult now that there is so much info available online.
If you'd like to compare notes,I'm happy to do that .Let me know and I'll send my email address.
Barbara
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Barbara L
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New Zealand
26 Posts

Posted - 26/10/2012 :  03:21:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Shirley
Just to say I sent you an email ten days ago at the address you gave me,but haven't heard back, I'm now wondering if you received it?
Regards
Barbara
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shirleylauchlan
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New Zealand
2 Posts

Posted - 27/10/2012 :  06:47:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Barbara
Yes I did. Sorry for not replying but haven't been home much. Will reply tomorrow.
regards
Shirley

S D Lauchlan
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Barbara L
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New Zealand
26 Posts

Posted - 27/10/2012 :  08:10:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No hurry -just wanted to make sure it didn't go astray
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normcook
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New Zealand
13 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2013 :  01:30:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Barbara - I'm also a great grandson of Mina Johanson/Heidenstrom on the Johanson side. My Grandmother was Mina's eldest daughter, Theodora Regina. I've read your research with great interest, and it is starting to answer numerous questions I've had over the years. As a pointer to the USA, Agnes Gabrielson, came to New Zealand back in the late 60's on her way to visit the "Other side" of the family, something she did on a regular basis. That family lived Eureka, Humbolt Bay, California.

Reinart Johanson was, I believe, the one who "jumped ship". My grandmother use to joke about him being a "naughty boy" and had to change his name from Gabrielsen to Johanson, so maybe that is adding to the problem of finding passage details. I believe that Mina Johanson landed at Petone, whether there are records around the Settlers Memorial on the foreshore at Petone, I do not know.

Agnes Gabrielsen had five other sisters namely Ragnhild Rasmussen, Birgit Scott, Marie Hannistaad, Ruth Bentsen and Anna Dahler.
I have a photo of this group, taken at Ruth's 80th back on the 24th Oct 1975. Maybe Shirley Lauchlan has inforfomation on this group, as I remember that Theodora Key, Hannah Moller and Agnes Gabrielsen use to exchange letters and photos.

Regards
Norm Cook


N.J.Cook
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Barbara L
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New Zealand
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Posted - 06/01/2013 :  02:14:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Norm
Interesting to hear from you,particularly since you come from the Gabrielson side,of which ,as you may have gathered,we know nothing.I'm happy to share what information I have .I am puzzled as to who Agnes Gabrielsen is? I'll send you a message with my email address rather than bombard you with questions on this thread :)
Regards
Barbara
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normcook
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New Zealand
13 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2013 :  05:34:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Shirley - Following up on your heritage to the Moller side of this 'Webb", would it be possible that your Grandparents lived in Rosetta Road, and Arnold was a builder, along with his son also Arnold, also a builder ? if so, I can recall the elder Arnold talking about a reunion he had with a brother, a seaman, who had arrived into Wellington and looked them up.

My maternal Grandmother, Theodora Regina Key (Johanson) was as I understand the youngest sibling of the Johanson branch, I have limited knowledge on the Heindenstrom members, even though my parents were in regular contact. Many lived within about a 10 km radius of each other. Is there a Greame Moller in your reference material. He used to own a menswear store in Paraparaumu Beach, now living in the Taupo area.

In answer to your question about the USA connection, we have a cousin in the Napier area. who stayed with those relatives back in the seventies or maybe earlier, and I hope to look him up in the next few weeks. If my memory serves me correctly - they lived in Eureka, Humbolt Bay, California. However having this knowledge, I'm of the belief, that we find that this side of the family is on the Gabrielsen branch not the Heidenstrom side.
The reason I make this conclusion is that it was Agnes Gabrielsen and her sisters that made frequent trips to the States. Theodora Key, to my knowledge, made two trips over there to see the cousins, I can't recall any of her sisters traveling with her. Nana Key had a reasonable amount of correspondence from her "Gabrielsen" cousins. Maybe you have some from Hannah, I don't ,but I know they exchanged cards and letters. Sorry, I do have one small greetings card.

N.J.Cook
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