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Barbara L
Starting member
New Zealand
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 Posted - 25/07/2009 : 12:02:12
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Oh -well if the notes are swedish,maybe that is one of the reasons I couldn't find the words in the dictionary.
Thankyou for your translation.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2009 : 18:16:01
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Nordenfjeldske gevorbne (rexruited) infanteriregiment was esatblished 1733.
The headquarter was in Oslo.
After the 1788 Military campaign against Sweden the headquarter established in Fredrikstad and from 1790 the Regimant was suported by two batallions from Akershusiske regiment, total 22 companies, 8 recruited and 14 nasjonal Companies.
In piecetime the garrison in Fredriklstad consisted of the recruited companies.
The uniform was a red dress, dark blue collar, white distinctions and tin or silver buttons.
The commading officer in 1794 was Major General Hans Jacob Hesselberg.
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Barbara L
Starting member
New Zealand
26 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2009 : 10:19:40
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Thankyou again
This is getting more and more interesting and so different to the type of genealogy I am used to.
now I see where Karl gets the name Severin from.
I have been looking at the passenger lists again today for Karl and Mina and I think I may have found her on a transcript of the list for the Shakespeare which left Hamburg in October 1875 and arrived in Wellington NZ in January 1876.I don't think the original list has survived.She is down as Mina Jansen ,age 23,which seems right.
When I get her death certificate,it will tell me how many years she had been in NZ - presuming it is accurate!
Thanks
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2009 : 11:28:52
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In the 1865 census is a possible Mina
she was born in Sweden and her mother was a widow in 1865 (had two children born in Norway before the husband died).
Mina ie Wilhelmine Jansdotter Dalgren was confirmed in 1869, see #8 |
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Edited by - eibache on 25/08/2009 12:42:40 |
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Barbara L
Starting member
New Zealand
26 Posts |
Posted - 25/08/2009 : 07:00:09
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eibache and káre
Firstly I must say how sorry I am that I didn't reply to your last post - I lost my internet connection because my broadband modem gave up the ghost –at the worst possible time!
So I couldn't write back to you to say that I found Mina eventually (all by myself)- or rather her baptism, in Aker on 23rd August 1852 Mina Carolina Ovidia ,daughter of Amund Jahnsen and Inger Marie Andreasdotter.I think I found her on the 1865 census with the family of Olaves Olsen and Karen Hansdatter,she is a foster daughter,so perhaps her parents had died by then? This has also led me to wonder if she came to NZ with this family.
At that stage,I couldn’t do any more research on the internet and I was running out of time ,so I haven't been able to follow up any further.I still haven't managed to locate her sister, or found proof of the death of Karl’s first wife.
I managed to get the family tree together just in time, and my friend is absolutely delighted with such a unique gift.(I told her it was by no means all my own work).She has read it through many times and last time we talked, we were on the phone for over two hours, going through all the details.
None of this would have been possible without your (all of your) generosity and patience - I just can't thank you enough.
Of course,the story is by no means finished and I hope to research further when time permits.Her sons have Norwegian heritage as well,so I'll look forward to returning to this board in the future 
Many many thanks
Barbara
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 25/08/2009 : 10:23:15
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Mina baptismal record was a good find. There is a note saying she was actually baptized in Oslo Domkirke, and she was. There you find the following description in the column for parents:
"Inger Maria Andreasdatter, Pige og Ungkarl Arbeidsmand Amund Jansen Hiem Logerende paa Grønland, men Barnet er født paa Hammersborg. Foreldrene blew ægtewiede den samme dag datter Barnet blew døpt. Pigen har tilstaaet for at Barnet er awlet med Halvor Hermansen."
(Mina Caroline Ovidia should have had Halvorsdatter as her last name then.)
The marriage record is #119
Very difficult to see where Amund Jahnsen (34) was born, but his father was Jahn Jahnsen. Inger Marie Andreasdatter (28) seems to come from Gjerdrum and her father was Andreas Jacobsen.
Inger Marie was born Oct 5 1824, see #30 - the mother was Kirsti Andersdatter.
Andreas Jacobsen and Kirsti Andersdatter were married July 1 1824, see #7 Andreas was a soldier 25 years old and came from Skulerud. Kirsti was 21 years old and came from Olstad.
Kirsti was baptized Dec 25 1802, see #35 her parents were Anders Hermansen, Wahl and Maria Clemetsdatter. The parents and siblings in
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Andreas Jacobsen was born Sept 15 1798 and confirmed 1815, see #6
his parents were Jacob Poulsen, Schulerud and Kassi Michalsdatter. The family in 1801
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Barbara L
Starting member
New Zealand
26 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2009 : 01:59:22
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Thankyou eibache
I wasn't expecting any more information!
Could you possibly translate the part about Mina's baptism ? i can't understand why her name would be Halvorsdatter.
And thankyou for the information about her parents - I don't know how you manage to find it all so quickly
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2009 : 06:08:11
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quote:
"Inger Maria Andreasdatter, Pige og Ungkarl Arbeidsmand Amund Jansen Hiem Logerende paa Grønland, men Barnet er født paa Hammersborg. Foreldrene blew ægtewiede den samme dag datter Barnet blew døpt. Pigen har tilstaaet for at Barnet er awlet med Halvor Hermansen."
"Inger Maria Andreasdatter, maiden and bachelor worker Amund Jansen Hiem lodging on Grønland, but the child is born on Hammersborg. The parents were married the same day the daughter child was baptized. The maiden has admitted that the child is procreated with Halvor Hermansen." Since the father was Halvor Hermansen (the name is all I know) Halvorsdatter would have been the normal name. |
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Barbara L
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New Zealand
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Posted - 26/08/2009 : 06:46:22
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Ah ! very interesting,thankyou.The amount of detail given in these records is amazing.I wish the English registers were like that - it would explain a lot of things.
Very much appreciated
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2009 : 07:02:52
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A second look at the marriage record revealed that Amund came from Skjetten (which is in Skedsmo parish, Akershus), his baptismal record is #32 he was born Sept 5 1818 and his parents were Jahn Jahnsen and Kari Olsdatter.
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Barbara L
Starting member
New Zealand
26 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2009 : 08:58:25
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Another thankyou
I doubt if I would ever have found that - Amund is quite clear,it is the parent's names which are harder.I think i only found Mina's baptism becuase the writing was so good.
I will add all these new people to the tree. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2009 : 08:50:07
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Hi Barbara, you are right about Shakespare.
It seems like Mina Karoline Ovidia Jansen emigrated with 3 other girls from Oslo, Hilda Mathilde Hansen, Karen Kristine Olsen and Mathilde Amalie Kleprig (Klepsich) from Oslo on St. Olaf on Sept. 28. 1875 for Hamburg, Germany where they entered Shakespare for New Zealand and arrived Wellington with 390 passengers on Jan 23. 1876.
Because 7 of the passengers had the Yellow fever the yellow flag was flying at the bay, see information from a Swedish family here.
It was totally 19 Norwegians on St. Olaf for via Hamburg for New Zealand, none of them corespond with her forsterparents.
Another group of 58 Norwegian emigrants for N.Z left on ship Kong Sigurd spring same year.
The suremane list for these 4 girls for the 1875 journey on Shakespare correspond, see here
The owner of this site tells that a CD with scans of passenger lists and add information are available here.
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Barbara L
Starting member
New Zealand
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Posted - 27/08/2009 : 09:03:47
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Thankyou - that is excellent (I am glad I got something right)
According to another note on the tree I was given, her sister left for America at the same time,so now I will see if I can find that.I don't know her sister's name for certain ,except there is one on the IGI named Ambrosia Katinka.
I will now go and see if I can find these girls after they arrived in NZ - wish me luck.
Thankyou yet again
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2009 : 10:06:00
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Ambrosia Catinka Amundsdatter emigrated April 1873 on ship Oder for Hull England where she changed ship.
Dest. Akron Ohio, USA, se here
She was born to Amund Jansen and Inger Marie Andreasdatter 1853, christened in Oslo Cathedral on Oct. 30, see #295.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2009 : 12:00:13
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Ambrosia Catinka Amundsdatter was a fosterchild as was her sister in 1865
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Karl Peter Severin Heidenstrom
