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jane shephard
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 Posted - 11/08/2009 : 01:52:00
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Thank you. It is amazing to me how you are able to find this information in these old records. Thank you also Kaarto, for sending me the links of the old Stave church. For it to still be standing after all these years, is quite a testement.
The question I pose to you now is, that of Bjornelien.... was that considered a town or a farm? Pinsland would be considered a farm that the family was on?
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 06:59:01
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Hi,
you are welcome.
I will tell you about this farms and bring some more information later today.
Pinsland and Bjørnelien was two farms.
Pinsland was spelled Pinsle, Pinesland, Pindsland in 1723, old norse Pinslarnar.
Bjørn means bear and lien means hillside.
Muregaard is named after Peder murer (Bricklayer) who lived there there about 1650, gaarden means farm:
The Bricklayer´s farm.
I have much more information about your family on Muregaard, Halvor and Tollis family was wellrespected, known as strong men and women, honest working ants, all of the children grew up on this small mountain farm (quotation from Nore og Uvdal bygdebook).
Also on Bjørnelien more information should exist.
Nore og Uvdal is a small municipality consisting of many small countrysides, the population centre is Rødberg, see the photo.
The road in right front of the photo was build 1920 in connecteion to the construction of Nore I Hydro electric power plant leads up to Muregaard higher up in the hillside located to the right and outside the photo. Muregaard (Gregors brother Ole b. 1835) sold land to the Power plant company, the trade agreement with "Nore Fossekompani" (Nore Waterfallcompany) was signed already Oct 30. 1899
The income in addition to the farming was coming from forestry, Trout fishing and Raindeer hunting in the fall in the mountain.
Norways largest high mountain plateu Hardangervidda is a part of Nore and Uvdal and still gives income to the farms.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 11/08/2009 20:31:11 |
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 07:53:34
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Bjørnelien.
Tore Halvorsen and Mari Ingebrektsdatter married Marc 3. 1841 in Nore.
Bachelor Tore Halvorsen age 20 was from Sporan (south from Rødberg) and Maid Mari Engebrektsdatter age 28 was from Hellerud in Sigdal.
Fathers: Halvor Svendsen and Engebrekt Halvorsen, left page #2
Do you have acesss to the Sigdal Bygdebok Einar and some information from there?
I will keep to Nore.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 11/08/2009 08:24:19 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 16:49:33
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I had to delete some of my postings from earlier today, I misread his father as Halvor Thoresen insted of Halvor Svendsen, sorry.
Thorer Halvorsen born on Sporanejet in Nore August 23, baptised Sept.28. 1821, born to Halvor Svendsen and Birgith Olsdatter Sporan ejet #57
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 20:57:29
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Muregaard 1900, Gregors brother Ole Halvorsen owned the farm, he married Ambjør Toresdatter from Tronrud, Nore, 1873, two sons, both were lumbermen/loggers. Halvor (died 1936) and Ole (died 1915) and daughter Ranghild (married Ole Tollevsen from Nore in 1909) lived and worked on the farm.
So did Gregor´s brother Halvor b. 1842, tailor and making skin-rugs. Halvor died unmarried 1903.
A 2. daughter Tordis b. 1879 worked on another farm, she married Knut Knutsen, Nore, in 1902
The father Halvor Olsen died 1887, the mother Tollis /Tordis Torbjørnsdatter still lived, she died 1903.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 12/08/2009 10:31:07 |
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jane shephard
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 21:02:34
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Kare,
Is the Sigdal Bygdebok Einar a type of reference book or family histories of the area? I am, as you can tell not familiar with it.
How far back did most of the churches keep records of the congergations in their area?
As they seemed to change their surnames with every generation, it becomes confusing to me to keep track. But in most cases, the sons would get a surname consisting of their father's first name?
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Hopkins
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 21:37:20
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Hi Jane,
sorry for the misundestanding.
I ment Einar/Einbache, we are both descendants from Sigdal, I was wondering if he had the books from Sigdal.
Follow Hopkins instructions, if you find the thread you will see that Norwegain naming practise is very easy to understand.
Halvors son was Halvorsen, Halvor daughter was Halvorsdr. , Hans son was Hansen, Hans daughter was Hansdatter, Oles son was Olsen etc, etc.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 11/08/2009 21:43:24 |
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eibache
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 21:43:54
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Do you have acesss to the Sigdal Bygdebok Einar and some information from there?
I have not seen your question until now, I don't have it in my house, but might go to the library to check if that is necessary.
By the way, where is the info saying Hellerud was in Sigdal?
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Edited by - eibache on 11/08/2009 22:20:04 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 22:31:04
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Hei Einar.
In my posting from Bjørnelien when Marit Engebrektsdatter Hellerud married 1841, she was from Sigdal. Hellerud was a farm in Sigdal and Krødsherad in 1865.
Information coming from Nore og Uvdal Bygdebok.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 23:46:56
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I forgot to answere your question about the church books.
The oldest church book in Norway is from 1623. April 15. 1667 the king decided by the law this should be in regular terms and from about early 1700 all parishes in Norway should record all the christening acts in separate sections, but the cronological lists in many parishes wasn´t changed before early 1800.
Nore starts 1708. Here right side is page one from Nore, not easy to understand Latin.
The heading: In nomine Jesu Christ....In the name of Jesus Christ
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Edited by - Kåarto on 11/08/2009 23:57:26 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 15:49:41
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Hellerud wasn´t in Sigdal but in Veggli sub parish in Rollag parish which Engebrekt /Ingebret Halvorsen´s forefathers came from.
It was his wife Margit Aase Larsdatter who was from Haugen in Sigdal.
Mari Ingebretsdatter was from Helle-eiet in Veggli when she married Tore Halvorsen Bjørnelien 1841 in Nore.
The family never lived in Sigdal, but Mari was born there.
Correct name on Helle-eiet was Helgesplass (Helges place).
Mari born in Sigdal to Engebrect Halvorsen Nov. 19. baptised Dec. 26.1812, left column 2. from bottom #5
Ingebret Halvorsen Helle and Margit Aase Larsdatter Hagen from Sigdal engaged Oct. 6. in Veggli, married Nov. 5. 1805 in Wæglie (Veggli).
Best men: Lars Halvorsen Helle and Hølge Olsen Brua, see bottom 1. page and top next page here
They settled dow on Helgesplass (Helle-eiet) after the wedding.
Ingebret on Helle 1801, 2. sisters, Sigrid and Helge, Lars Halvorsen, best man in Ingebrekts wedding, was his brother in law and married to Helge (one son Halvor). Parents: Halvor Olsen and Sigri Ingebrektsdatter.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 21:41:15
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Ingebret Halvorsen was born on Bøli 1770.
His father Halvor Olsen Helle bought Bøli next to Helle in 1765 for 369 Riksdaler and was named Halvor Olsen Bøhle.
About halway down right page here:
D. 9 May Wæglie døbt Halvor Olsøn Bøhlis søn Ingebrigt.
Mai 9 Veggli baptised Halvor Olsen Bøhlis son Ingebrigt
In 1780 Halvor Olsen sold Bøli and bought two of the Helle farms from his brother Gunder Olsen and named Halvor Olsen Helle, local names for the two farms: Hellerud and Helgesplass.
Two more sons born on Helle, Ole 1763 inherit Hellerud, Paul after 1780.
Ole Halvorsen Helle´s (Hellerud) daughter Ambjør Olsdatter Helle born 1806 (Birgit Thoresdatters 1. cousin) emigrated with about 100 persons from this area organized by Ansten Knudsen Nattestad from Veggli on Bark Emilie in 1839.
The group came to Jefferson Prairie (Clinton township) Dane, Wisc. Sept. and settled down there or in the nearby Rock Prairie County. Ambjør is passenger #78
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eibache
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Posted - 20/09/2009 : 07:31:52
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Hei Einar.
In my posting from Bjørnelien when Marit Engebrektsdatter Hellerud married 1841, she was from Sigdal. Hellerud was a farm in Sigdal and Krødsherad in 1865.
Information coming from Nore og Uvdal Bygdebok.
I have now got hold of the Sigdal books. There are two Hellerud farms under the main farm Flågan. On Sø-Hellerud was Elling Engebretsen born at Pletaneie 1804. Looking at a possible sister Mari born in 1813 gave no results.
Looking at the marriage record for Tore Halvorsen, Sporan and Mari Engebretsdatter I read the she came from Helleiet and her father was Engebret Halvorsen.
In 1801 Ingebret Halvorsen was at Helle
Could he have married and be the father of Mari born in 1813? |
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