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Dave Eide
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Posted - 22/08/2009 :  16:20:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jacob and Sevorine V. Fjar (Swenson) married in 1882, in 1900 they were living in Tansem township, Clay County, Minnesota both came from Norway. The spelling came from the census, could be Tjar and Severine?

Gabriel and Anna Fjar came from Norway and lived in Towner, North Dakota. Severine W. died 1921, Anna O. died in 1933 and Gabriel died in 1936 all in Towner.

We are trying to find out if these people are related, if so how, when they arrived, where in Norway did they come from? Thanks for all your help.

eibache
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Posted - 22/08/2009 :  16:52:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A little bit more info would be nice, birth years, where did they marry, etc
Most likely Fjar is the farm name, could be Fjær whichcan be found in Nordland and Nord-Trøndelag.

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Hopkins
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Posted - 22/08/2009 :  16:59:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of those couples in the 1900 Norwegian census -
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1900&knr=1746&kenr=004&bnr=0044&lnr=00

Only possible to find without birthyears and immigration years because his given name was fairly uncommon.

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Dave Eide
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Posted - 22/08/2009 :  17:14:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From the census, birth years given... Jacob 1852, his wife Sevorine 1868. Gabriel 4/16/1853, Anna O. 5/13/1858 and Sererine W. was 59 and died 12/26/1921. Also from the census, Jacob and his wife arrived 1882. Hope this helps.
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Hopkins
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Posted - 22/08/2009 :  17:52:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You still don't list the year of immigration for Gabriel which should be found in US census(es). But we know that it would be after the 1900 Norwegian census and probably from the port of Trondheim from where they were found living in that database.

So - 1905 Fj'r family leaves Norway

That gives you Gabriel's patronymic which will aide you in your search of the 1865 Norwegian database.
1865 Bergsteen farm in Beitstad, NT
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eibache
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Posted - 22/08/2009 :  18:17:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When Oline Kristina, the daughter of Gabriel and Anna Kjær was born Dec 14 1883, Gabriel Andreasen (1853) was a sawmill worker, the mother was Anna Ovidie Olsdatter (1858), see #3
Anna Ovidias baptismal record is #73 her parents being Ole Andreas Andersen and Oline Olsdatter, Bangsund.
Gabriels baptismal record is #39 his parents being Andreas Johansen and Karen Andersdatter, Overgaardsplads.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 22/08/2009 21:31:31
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eibache
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Posted - 22/08/2009 :  21:50:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jakob and Severine is most likely #34515 and 34516 here
Their marriage record is #19 Jakob Albert Petersen, Fjær and Severine Valmine Svendsdatter.
Jakobs father was Peter Olsen and Severines father was Svend Eliasen.
Severine, her parents and siblings in 1865
Jakob in 1865
Jacob Alberts baptismal record is #32 his parents being Petter Olsen and Anne Peternille Olsdatter, Fornæs.
No clear evidence of relationship so far.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 22/08/2009 22:08:30
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/08/2009 :  22:26:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a possible match for Garbriel Fjar.. He is travelling with Anna age 48, Gurine ? age 19 and Paul age 3 going to Bisbee, North Dakota. While the transcriber wrote down Far, when you look at the original manifest the spelling could easily be Fjar or even Fjær. Found in ancestry.com.

Name: Gabriel A Far
Arrival Date: 13 Jul 1905
Age: 52 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Saxonia
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Ole G Tjar
Last Residence: Norway
Microfilm Roll Number: 85

Edited by - AntonH on 22/08/2009 22:38:16
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/08/2009 :  22:29:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the same information for Anna. Same source.

Name: Anna Far
Arrival Date: 13 Jul 1905
Age: 48 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Saxonia
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Ole G Tjar
Last Residence: Norway
Microfilm Roll Number: 85
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Dave Eide
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Posted - 23/08/2009 :  20:18:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all for your help.... with that help we have found the following information... maybe it could help someone else?

In 1865 Jacob Petersen-13 was a young male servant in the home Eilert Johansen at the farm Fjær in Namsos.

On August 30, 1882 Jakob Petersen-30 and his wife Severine Petersen-20 from Namsos left Trondheim aboard the steamship Hero. Their destination was Barnsville, Minnesota.

Jacob A. P. Fjer became a naturalized American citizen in Clay County Minnesota. Filed in Final papers page 163 for the period 1893-1897.

On June 21, 1900 Jacob Fjar-47 and Severine-31 lived in Tansem, Clay, Minnesota with their children; Minna-17, Petra-15, Gjerta-13, Alma-10 and Oscar-5. Jacob and Severine had been married for 18 years and all five of their children were then living. They both emigrated from Norway in 1882. Jacob was a farm laborer.

On June 30, 1905 Jakob Fjer-52 and Severine-42 lived at 407 7th Avenue South, Moorhead, Clay, Minnesota with their three youngest children Gertie-18, Alma-16 and Oscar-10.

In January 1920 a married couple Jacob O. Peterson-66 and Severine V. Peterson-65 were boarders in the home of Emil H. Dosvik in Holy Cross, Clay, Minnesota. They indicated they emigrated from Norway in 1882. Jacob was employed on the farm as a carpenter.
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eibache
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Posted - 25/08/2009 :  20:33:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know if it can be of help to anyone, but a few more pieces of info is available from this thread:
"Petter Olsen and his wife Anna Peternille Olsdatter lived on Fornæs, Nord Trøndelag in 1852 when their son Jacob Albert Petersen was born July 18.
Severine Valmine Svendsdatter born approx 1861 was the daughter of Svend Eliasen and Vilhelmine Sevaldsdatter
Jacob Albert Petersen, Fjær was a sawmill worker when he married Severine Valmine Svendsdatter, Oldervig October 23 1881."


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