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eibache
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 Posted - 22/10/2009 : 09:13:09
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At January 11, left page top. What is the meaning of this reference which looks like a word beginning with De??
the word is "Despons" a short for "Desponseret" meaning engaged to be married. The marriage was on March 6 "Co-p-u-l-e-ret".
Aanon and Siri was married in 1758 then, Maritte (Marthe) born in 1760 was their first child.
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Edited by - eibache on 22/10/2009 09:37:16 |
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eibache
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Posted - 22/10/2009 : 09:52:05
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It is the parents of this Siri Olsdatter that I would like to find.
- neccessary to approch this by determining the birth year of Siri.
In 1801 Siri was a widow, said to be 68 years old. She is living with her son Michel (Michael) said to be 34 years, his birth record says he was born 1764, he should have been 37 years in 1801 then.
Her daughter Ingeborg is said to be 30 years, but she was born 1867 and should have been 34 years old.
It is possible that Siri said to be 68 years should have been approx 71 years old - born 1730 or so.
Siris parents are Ole Olsen and Ingeri, Tvet who baptized Siri Dec 1 1730, see record below Dom: 22 post Trinit on left page.
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/10/2009 : 16:08:11
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Bodil
Another question for you. I went to the library yesterday and looked at the two Bygdebøker for Åmli. One for Gjovdal and one for Tovdal, expecting to find the two farms, Vehus and Rostveit. However I did not find them in those books. Do you happen to know in what if any Bygdebok I would find the two farms, Vehus and Rostveit. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/10/2009 : 16:44:41
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Great detective work, tusen takk. One question, what is the usage difference between the word Desponseret and Trolovelse. When would one use one or the other. |
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eibache
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Posted - 22/10/2009 : 16:56:49
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One question, what is the usage difference between the word Desponseret and Trolovelse. When would one use one or the other.
- I really don't know, but expect it all depends on the pastor, was he a Dane or a Norwegian, did he use as much latin as possible or did he rely on Norwegian words? |
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Bodil Naist
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Posted - 23/10/2009 : 06:54:42
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I checked with the Vegusdal book and I see that they say that Mari Osmundsdatter died as a small child. This is not correct I think.
Here's the marriage at Aamli:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060113020114.jpg
and as you will see her age in 1829 was 31. She was baptized 28 March 1798, so this seems to be a match, especially when Anne was married to her brother the same year as Knud and Mari married.
You probably also know that Gunder Osmundsen also had a elder brother with the same name born 1710 - or at least so I'm told. |
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Bodil Naist
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Posted - 23/10/2009 : 07:05:36
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I checked the Vegusdal book and it says that Mari Osmundsdatter died as a small child. This is probably not correct.
Here's the marriage at Aamli:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060113020114.jpg
When you check the church record, her age was 31 in 1829.
Mari Osmundsdatter was baptized 28th March 1798 in Vegusdal, so this ought to be a match.
You probably also know that Gunder Osmundsen had an elder brother with the same name born 1710, or so I'm told. |
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Bodil Naist
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Posted - 23/10/2009 : 07:14:10
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Sorry, I didn't see your question regarding Bygdebok for Åmli.
At present there are no bygdebok covering these farms. Egil Fiane is publishing a book abt. the farms they called "Vimsebygda" in Åmli this year, and he's got material for 3 or 4 books more, But this is an extensive work, so I have no idea when the farms close to Tovdal will be covered. Next book will probably cover the farms from Oy down to the center of Aamli. |
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Bodil Naist
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Posted - 23/10/2009 : 07:59:58
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Aanon Bjornsen Klepsland had a daughter, Marte Aanonsdatter Klepsland born abt. 1690. She was married to Ole Jorgensen Flaat, Evje.
Could this have any connection to your Marthe Aanonsdatter? |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 23/10/2009 : 11:37:24
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Hi Anton.
Intereseting, confusing and rarely word, Desponeret.
I have seen it used in connection to engagement, often translated like this:
Desponeret (Troloved).
I think perhaps it could be the same as todays Disponere, to dispose/allocate time for the ceremony.
Perhaps the couple was in a hurry?
Here is an example in this engagement and wedding records from Eidanger in Telemark 1695-1717, less than 2 inches down, diff. old words, see here.
Sept. 28. 1701 "bestilte" asked/ordered Peder Nilesn Klefen "at maate Desponere" to Desponere and angage with Børte Olessen Flaaden on (to marry?) Dom 19 Trinty, Oct 2.
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/10/2009 : 15:20:09
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Thank you for all the great information, I really appreciate it.
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You probably also know that Gunder Osmundsen had an elder brother with the same name born 1710, or so I'm told
Yes, I did know that, in fact the Vegusdal book refers to the younger as Lille Gunder Osmundsen.
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/10/2009 : 15:22:44
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Aanon Bjornsen Klepsland had a daughter, Marte Aanonsdatter Klepsland born abt. 1690. She was married to Ole Jorgensen Flaat, Evje.
Could this have any connection to your Marthe Aanonsdatter
I am not aware of any connection with Ole Jorgnesen Flaat Evje.
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/10/2009 : 15:38:16
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Bodil
You have provided much needed and appreciated information, I wonder if you have a little more. Do you know anything about the parentsof
Knut Taraldson Rostveit born 1744 and his wife Anne Jørgensdatter born 1737.
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eibache
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Posted - 23/10/2009 : 17:01:24
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| Knut Taraldsen was a twin, his brother was Andres, and they were baptized May 23 1744, see #24&25 their father was Taarald Knudsen |
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Bodil Naist
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Posted - 24/10/2009 : 17:34:36
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I have some more information which mainly includes Aamli, Vegusdal, Iveland and Vegaarshei. But it is much too extensive to give you here. You see, I have three family lines on my mother's side which in a way seem to concentrate on Vegusdal but somehow also seem to be connected with lines in Froland and elsewhere.
Send me an e-mail: bo-oever@online.no - and I will send you what I have about the family.
Then you can decide what to concentrate on.
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Parents of Anne Wraalsdatter Rostveit
