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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 18/01/2010 :  18:36:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jedi,

Here is Nikoline Margrete's confirmation in Steigen 1881:

Source information: Nordland county, Steigen, Parish register copy nr. 855C05 (1879-1894), Confirmation records 1881, page 136.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=15757&idx_id=15757&uid=ny&idx_side=-107
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070828680107.jpg

Also searched this for Nikoline to see if permission granted her to go to Trondhjem or America, none found:
Source information: Nordland county, Steigen, Parish register copy nr. 855C05 (1879-1894), Emigration records 1879-1893, page 350-356

Marriage of Andreas Olsen and Ragnild is #14, birthdate is even more removed from 1841 ish and his middle name is given as Karl not Blom:
Source information: Nordland county, Steigen, Parish register (official) nr. 855A09 (1864-1874), Marriage records 1867, page 155.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2620&idx_id=2620&uid=ny&idx_side=-155
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050421010435.jpg

Nikoline's mother Jensine's baptismal #4:
Source information: Nordland county, Steigen, Parish register (official) nr. 855A07 (1834-1852), Birth and baptism records 1843, page 104-105.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2618&idx_id=2618&uid=ny&idx_side=-57
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050421020911.jpg

Looking at my Norwegian atlas there is a whole island called Lund in Steigen. The ferry crosses over from Svolvaer right past Lundoy landing at Skutvik then at Bogen further south. Not sure where Laskestad is in relation to all. Orsnes is on the water on Vaagen on the side of the island just across from Steigen.

Another good source is the "faddernes" at the baptisms of Margrethe's children, having the names might turn up a relative of hers in US.

Jackie M.

Edited by - jkmarler on 18/01/2010 19:33:47
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eibache
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Posted - 18/01/2010 :  20:47:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You will find 4 "Lund (Gårdsbruk), Steigen, Nordland" - use this map.

Einar
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Jedi92851
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Posted - 18/01/2010 :  20:58:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can you make out anymore of this information or names on her birth page here: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2620&idx_id=2620&uid=ny&idx_side=-21
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eibache
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Posted - 18/01/2010 :  23:33:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Record no. 57:
Nikoline Margrete was born July 25 at Ørsnæs in Vaagen Parish and baptized Oct. 1 at home by Peder A. Benjaminsen, Ørsnæs, this was confirmed in church Oct. 16 1865. Nikoline Margretes parents were bachelor and servant at Ørsnæs Andreas Blom Olsen and maiden Jensine Olsdatter born at Ørsnæs, living at Laskestad.
Witnesses at the baptism: Lorentze Olsdatter, Laskestad, Johanna Knudsdatter, Laskestad, Kristofer Kristiansen, Laskestad, Ole Abrahamsen, Laskestad, Henrike Hansdatter, Laskestad.
Jensine Olsdatter with Nikoline and her parents in the 1865 census.

Einar
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Jedi92851
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Posted - 19/01/2010 :  00:19:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks so much again.....I sure couldn't get that out of there.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/01/2010 :  18:13:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Going back to an old note... Here are the listings of obits for Ole O. Lund at the Pennington County Historical site:

Lund Ole O. 20-Dec-1934 79 Greenwood Tri-County Forum
Lund Ole O. 27-Dec-1934 79 Greenwood TRF Times

And the headstone reading from the same site:
Lund Ole O. 4/2/1855 12/18/1934 79 EG 1 97 3

Now this Ole would not be old enough to be Maggie's father but could be a brother or cousin (or not related at all!). The obits were pretty reasonable last time I ordered (at about $2/each) so you might want to roll the dice....

Does Maggie's obit list a funeral home or church for her service? Sometimes funeral homes have the best records...
If the church was ALC (American Lutheran), the existing registers from churches belonging to that group were microfilmed in the 1970s and are loanable from the ELCA archives in Chicago (for a fee, of course.) If she and Edward were members of a Lutheran church which ended up in the ALC, perhaps the kids baptisms are to be found with the godparents names listed.

As it is, it seems that Maggie is pretty consistent with in records regarding her age. The Trondhjem leaving list: age 24; age at first marriage (from the 1930 census) 26, etc.

Jackie M.
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Jedi92851
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Posted - 19/01/2010 :  18:34:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I need to find the obit I did order for Maggie a year ago....it's around here somewhere but did not find anything in it. There are so many Lunds and Olsons in Minnesota and that came over from Norway. I was just looking yesterday. It is pretty definite that she came over in 1891. That is the one fact that I believe is true. Lofoten I believe is a really strong fact also. Her birth in 1867 is real strong. In all census she is 12 years younger than Edward.....his age is accurate. Her name is so many possibilities. There are lots of Nikolines in Norway also. That name is really common. Don't know what to think.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/01/2010 :  20:29:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Here are the listings for Maggie Hanson's obits at the pvillage site. Do you remember which one (s) you might have ordered?:

Hanson Edward J. Mrs. 06-Mar-1941 73 Times
Hanson Maggie 06-Mar-1941 73 Viking Tri-County Forum
Hanson Maggie 05-Mar-1941 73 Viking Sheaf

The editors may have copied each other's obit but then again they may have also tweaked the information for their publications. The Sheaf is the Warren Sheaf, a paper in Marshall county, the other two are (I think) Thief River Falls papers.

You haven't said much about Margaret's children. Did the girls marry and to whom?

Are there any other parishes in Norway which Norwegians might treat or think of as part of Lofoten? (Hadsel, Sortland, or which?)

The earlier list was from the familysearch.org site, but depending on the time might other parishes be included in a description of Lofoten?

It appears that the vast majority of people who included or gave Lofoten as part of their birthplace were living elsewhere than the actual Lofoten parishes in the 1875 census transcriptions. Lofoten might be a quick way of saying where you're from rather than mentioning a specific parish by name which might be a more obscure reference.

Who was the informant on Maggie's death certificate?

Sorry, I'm pushy, too...

Hilsen,
Jackie M.

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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/02/2011 :  23:48:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Today while looking through a Gudbrandsdalaget membership list published in 1925-26 I saw a couple of folks whose last name was given as Loften and that they came from nordre Fron.

There were several farms named Løften in n Fron in the 1875 census, no daughter named Margit or Margrethe, etc. but from there I did look in the parish registers for 1867-1868. Again no Margrethe but there was a Marit Olsdatter born on one of the birthdates given in the original post: 14 June 1867. She would be #88 (but the page is torn or curled).

Source information: Oppland county, Nord-Fron, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1865-1883), Birth and baptism records 1867, page 26.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6077&idx_id=6077&uid=ny&idx_side=-28
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070115640028.jpg


And here is the baptismal record for the daughter Marit in one of the families on Løften in the 1875 census. She is #117:

Source information: Oppland county, Nord-Fron, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1865-1883), Birth and baptism records 1865, page 9.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6077&idx_id=6077&uid=ny&idx_side=-11
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070115640011.jpg


Hope this helps....

Hilsen,
Jackie M.

Edited by - jkmarler on 07/02/2011 00:03:50
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/02/2013 :  10:58:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a possible to vette:

PRO
Ulrika Margrethe Olsdatter
born 14 June 1867 Nærøy
mother's name is Nikoline
very tenuous connection to someplace with Lund as part of the name. Moholt is farm/place of residence at time of confirmation. In the 1865 census there is a farm in Strinda named Moholt Karinelund.
confirmed 1883 Trondheim

CON
no strong known or obvious connection to Lund
Nærøy does not equal Loften/Lofoten

#62
Source information: Nord-Trøndelag county, Nærøy, Parish register (official) nr. 784A05 (1860-1876), Birth and baptism records 1867, page 63.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2524&idx_id=2524&uid=ny&idx_side=-67

#55
Source information: Sør-Trøndelag county, Vår Frue kirke in Trondheim, Parish register (official) nr. 602A17 (1880-1901), Confirmation records 1883, page 152.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=3032&idx_id=3032&uid=ny&idx_side=-159

Edited by - jkmarler on 03/02/2013 17:04:46
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Jedi92851
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Posted - 03/02/2013 :  14:57:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did find where she had told a relative that she was from Lofoten, Norway. The year of her birth is right in your records. I think Lund may have been the name of the farm she was from in Norway from what I understand they took those names when they came to the states as my other ancestors did. Thank you for looking. She also said she had grown up in Trondheim.

Edited by - Jedi92851 on 03/02/2013 15:09:13
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 03/02/2013 :  15:59:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lofoten has following 6 municipalities;
Vestvågøy, Vågan, Flakstad, Moskenes, Værøy and Røst.

Kåre
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2013 :  20:42:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A completely different tack here. Did any relatives of Margrethe visit her from Norway? Looking at the Trondhjem departures, for any last name containing "Lund", with residence containing "rond", with destination containing "Min" was this woman whose destination was to her sister at Holt Minnesota:


Year Page Line no. Serial no. New group Date of reg. Date Date of departure Given name Last name Marital status Family pos. Occupation Sex Age Date of birth Residence Destination Line Ship Freight (spd/kr) Freight (øre) Ticket Purpose Travel permissions Remarks


167652 1915 361 30 539 1 27.04.1915 Agnes Fredrikke Lund ug Tjenestepike k 1894 Trondhjem Holt, Minn. Norske via Bergen Bill. bet. i Amerika Reiser til sin Søster Pr.att.


Here is probably the traveller Agnes Lund in 1910. Unlikely that Margrethe is her sister since Agnes' father was born 1869:

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036806047512

Here is Agnes' family in the 1900 census, living at Trondheim but her father Ole Andreas Lund born Trondheim but temporarily ? at Aalesund which is in Nordland More og Romsdal but not Lofoten. Bad geography alert !

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f01601&personpostnr=23729&merk=23729

Ole Andreas Lund, Agnes' father was confirmed in Trondheim and his parents were listed as Peter Lund and Karoline:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=52&filnamn=KF16011878d&gardpostnr=825&personpostnr=2473&merk=2473#ovre

Edited by - jkmarler on 03/02/2013 21:53:09
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Jedi92851
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Posted - 03/02/2013 :  21:02:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have not heard about any of her Norwegian family but Holt, Minnesota is only a couple miles from where she lived here.
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2013 :  21:27:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't know if the Agnes Lund search is worth more effort. She did return to America in 1921 after living here from 1915-1919. On her return she married Christian Johnson and by 1930 they had at least 2 daughters and were living in Baudette, Minn.

Long shot....
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