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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2013 :  22:10:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Among the indices to the records of the parishes in Trondhjem are in and out migrants. Here is one to the domkirken, last name Lund coming from Flakstad which is part of Lofoten:

Trondheim Domkirke Mini 601.A26 646 3 1884 .1877 Domkirken Innflyttar Skomager Johan Andreas Lund M Søndre gade, Flakstad Flakstad 1854 f. og d. i Flakstad, konf. samme sted 1871
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jkmarler
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Posted - 29/12/2020 :  18:18:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jedi92851

Edward was married to Dorthea and I found somewhere where it was stated his first marriage was in 1880. I've bee trying to find that. His first two children where Hartvig b June 1882 and Alma D in b Jan 1884. I also have been trying to find where they were born in Norway. That makes his two younger children Hannah and Clara who he left behind in Norway born between 1885 and the time he came to the states in 1889. I have been looking into who might have taken them in. They must have been too young for him to take. Dorthea, their mother, may have died...I have to assume. I know nothing more about those two girls.
Edward was in the Tune, Østfold, Norway census-1865.
Born at Opstadalen Aug 7
Baptized Johan Edvard Sept 2 1855

I also had googled Loften and was wondering if it was meant as Lofoten since there was so many misspellings in the old notes I found. I am really bad at the digitalarkivet since I know no Norwegian and am trying translate what to put in what boxes there.
It doesn't appear from what I have found that Margrethes descendants knew much of her past or family. I find nothing about siblings or parents in her obit. There is a possibility she did not have much of a family...adopted or such. I have found some pretty tough things with persistence in the past just when I was ready to give up.




Here is an Edward Hanson with 3 children Hanna, Clara and Hartvik leaving Norway in 1889:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9/og00000000272442

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9/og00000000272443
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9/og00000000272444
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9/og00000000272445

and another hanna:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9/og00000000272446

residence for all of these is Krisand, an abbreviation.

In the 1930 census Edward reports his age at first marriage as 19 and Maggie reports her age at first marriage as 26.:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RHN-HZC?i=1&cc=1810731&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AX388-NKG

a transcribed baptism of Johan Hartvik to parents Edward Hanson and Dorothea Johannesson:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NW8H-G5P

#66 Johan Hartvik birth / baptism:
SAK, Barbu sokneprestkontor, F/Fa/L0001: Parish register (official) no. A 1 /1, 1878-1883, p. 54
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070118340095

a transcribed record of an Alma:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWF9-4JV

Edward J Hanson's death naming parents as Hans Larson and Henrikke:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FDQB-7K2

#247 Johan Edvard Hansen birth baptism:
SAO, Tune prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0011: Parish register (official) no. 11, 1852-1856, p. 100
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060316010104

Edward J Hanson in 1865 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037997008554

From MOMS:
MARSHALL B-560 12/12/1894 SHERN, HARTVIK M HANSON, CLARA

Klara Helmine transcribed baptism:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHFW-SDX

A daughter Hanna baptism transcribed:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHF7-1HB

A marriage between Johan Edward Hanson & Anne Dorothea Johannessdatter:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7BQ-4Y1

Death and burial of Anne Dorothea Johannesdatter:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWG5-KMF

Edited by - jkmarler on 30/12/2020 09:48:54
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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/12/2020 :  11:36:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A matching arrival in Philadelphia on "Lord Gough" in 1891:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9W-PN5K
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Jedi92851
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Posted - 14/04/2022 :  00:03:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could someone kindly translate the other names for me. I have found this is my great-grandmother, Ulrikka Margrethe was her given name. She used the name Margrethe O. Lund when she came to America. Thank you!
#62
Source information: Nord-Trøndelag county, Nærøy, Parish register (official) nr. 784A05 (1860-1876), Birth and baptism records 1867, page 63.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2524&idx_id=2524&uid=ny&idx_side=-67
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Myhrecharlie
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Canada
140 Posts

Posted - 14/04/2022 :  14:47:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Translated church book page
(https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000006238464)
The list of witness appear to be first names
Ole, Halvor, Adolf, Jonelle?, unknown ?, Margrethe Laugen?
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 14/04/2022 :  20:22:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jedi92851

Could someone kindly translate the other names for me. I have found this is my great-grandmother, Ulrikka Margrethe was her given name. She used the name Margrethe O. Lund when she came to America. Thank you!
#62
Source information: Nord-Trøndelag county, Nærøy, Parish register (official) nr. 784A05 (1860-1876), Birth and baptism records 1867, page 63.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2524&idx_id=2524&uid=ny&idx_side=-67



What record have you found that led you to accept Ulrikke as your Maggie Lund? She was one of the dozen possibles brought up in this topic....
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/04/2022 :  21:00:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here she is with her family in 1875 and very possibly her maternal grandparents:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052393004520

Marriage of her parents:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000006299427

Her parents living with maternal grandparents in 1865 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038343001349

Maggie's mother and siblings going by Lund in 1891 census in Trondheim:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053073016308

Her mother Nicoline's birth /baptism transcription:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000039952925

Probably her mother's death in 1930:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000005447205

Her sister's Nettie's marriage in 1896
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000000972157

Nettie Oline Sperati in 1925:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01063300055654

Netta died 27 June 1926:
https://www.nb.no/items/83c784e1e5c8057d98f1a57c0fbf597a?page=5&searchText=%22robert%20sperati%22

Possibly marriage of sister Karen Johanne:
https://www.nb.no/items/afaf52813fb7bd6d039f5871539e22f3?page=1&searchText=%22karen%20johanne%20lund%22

Possibly sister Karen Johanne in 1900 census
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037464000306

Possibly sister Karen Johanne in 1910 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036806050018

Possibly sister Karen Johanne in 1934 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01063301003854

The brother Olaf Nicholai Olsen in 1925 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01063300025372

#46 brother Olaf Nikolai birth /baptism:
Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, SAT/A-1456/606/L0294: Parish register (official) no. 606A09, 1878-1886, p. 176
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070420640094

Edited by - jkmarler on 15/04/2022 18:34:52
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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 15/04/2022 :  07:02:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Way interesting. Olava's dodfallsprotokal at the very bottom of the right hand page continues on the next:
Trondheim byfogd, SAT/A-0003/1/3/3L/L0014: Dødsanmeldelsesprotokoll, 1928-1930, p. 323
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk60065033000375

Neither Maggie nor any of the daughters mentioned as surviving but it does say her husband Ole Knudsen Lund died in America. The informant is the son Olaf Nicholai Olsen (Lund)
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