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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
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 Posted - 11/01/2010 : 23:35:30
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I have been gathering information on the family of Ingvald SVERSEN and Berthe DRESDATTER who came to New Zealand from Christiania in 1873 aboard the "Høvding".
The info I have on this family can be found here:
http://www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz/syversen-ingvald-descendants/
Also, I have not been able to determine what happened to the following children of Ingvald and Berthe, and would be grateful for any help:
Andreas INGVOLDSEN b. 18 Sep 1835; chr. on 11 Oct 1835 in Aker, Christiania.
August Severin Dyvat INGVOLDSEN b. 17 Feb 1837; chr. on 13 Aug 1837 in Aker, Christiania.
He is found in the 1865 census here:
Strafanstalten (dens Fanger) Fæstningen, Agershuus Strafanstalts Menighed, Christiania, Norway.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=3&filnamn=f60301&gardpostnr=9&personpostnr=261&spraak=e&merk=261#ovre
There is something about August, written in Norwegian (which I cannot read), here:
Norsk retstidende, Volume 28, By Norges advokatforbund, Norske advokat- og sagførerforening, Norway. Høiesteret, p289:
http://books.google.com/books?id=AIsYAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA289&lpg=PA289&dq=dyvart+ingvaldsen&source=bl&ots=Xr4hLqjdNI&sig=uVeRQQyBppAkJdusHwAwM5V8Kqw&hl=en&ei=WaRLS9nqA4_-sgOxoMHXDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=dyvart%20ingvaldsen&f=false
Anton INGVOLDSEN was supposedly chr. 06 Jan 1845 in Domkirken, Christiania. However, I cannot find this record.
Ingvald's and Berthe's daughter, Constance Adelaide INGEVALDSDATTER (chr. 08 Jan 1843 in Domkirken, Christiania) married Peder EVENSEN 13 Sep 1866 in Vestre Aker, Christiania. She is found emigrating to America with a son, Einar Ingvald [EVENSEN] aged 11 mths, here:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=20&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=10891&spraak=e&merk=10891#ovre
I have not been able to find a birth/christening record for Einar Ingvald PEDERSEN or EVENSEN, and was hoping if someone could help me to find this, please.
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Pip
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2010 : 23:54:58
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Hi.
"Norsk Retstidende" Norwegian Justis journal was founded 1836 and is a publication issued by Norwegian Bar assosiation, still exist.
About August;
Justis journal, Volume 28, by Norwegian Bar Assosiation, Norwegian lawyer and solicitor Assosiation and Supreme Court page 289.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 12/01/2010 00:01:47 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/01/2010 : 09:01:04
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Hard to find Einar Ingvald (Pedersen), he was 11-12 of a year when he emigrated 1869 with his mother, ticket was paid for in USA, she was G (married) so we can assume Peder Jensen already had emigrated.
Could not find Constantia (rare name) in the 1865 census for Oslo.
Maybe a track?
Ingvald Syversen and Berthe Dyresdatter were both from Stange.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/01/2010 : 10:38:43
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Constantia (Constance) in 1865.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2010 : 14:00:17
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In 1865 Constance Adelaide Ingvaldsdatter was a member of Gamle (Old ) Aker congregation, when she married Sept. 13.1866 married in Vestre Aker church, a sub parish under Aker.
She was from Bjølsen-eie, a sub farm under farm Bjølsen
I see you have the wedding record, did you know that Peder Evensen was a weaving-worker when he married, he was born Oct. 12. 1844 on Kjølsetsveen in Østre Toten municipality to Wheel-maker Even Even Nielsen and Tonette Andersdatter living on farm Braaten in 1865 with a grandson, Karl Haagensen age 19, who helped his grandfather with making wheels.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 12/01/2010 16:42:34 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2010 : 14:03:28
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Found him
Einar Ingvold was bap in Gamle Aker church April 5. 1868, born Sept. 21 1868, see#54
The family lived in Maridalveien 232, a street.
Peder Evensen was now a factory worker.
Ingvold Syversen was his godfather.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2010 : 20:31:13
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Ingvold and Berthe had a son Julius in 1852, see #202
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
138 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2010 : 21:12:45
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Thank you Einar and Kåre.
This is extremely helpful. |
Pip
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2010 : 15:53:29
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quote:
There is something about August, written in Norwegian (which I cannot read), here: Norsk retstidende, Volume 28, By Norges advokatforbund, Norske advokat- og sagførerforening, Norway. Høiesteret, p289:
- quite lengthy description of thefts - 5 different persons, August was no. 3, sentenced to lifelong hard labour.
Translation in the first issue:
"February 21st
L.Nr. 76 Lawyer Paludan, Actor against 1) Theodor Pedersen, 2) Erik Jensen, 3) August Severin Dyvart Ingvaldsen, 4) Ingvald Hansen and 5) Peder Aslesen.
The 5 named persons, together with 3 others whose case was not summoned for the high court, was charged for several thefts in 1861. In the court of first instance the sentence was for no. 1 and 3 lifelong hard labor imprisonment, for no. 2 12 years hard labor imprisonment, for no. 4 7 years hard labor imprisonment and no. 5 was sentence to 20 days imprisonment and all being responsible for cost and compensation to the ones they had stolen from. This sentence was confirmed by the court of second instance who for no. 5 increased the sentence to 1 year imprisonment as well as responsibility for compensation. The case for the high court had 6 items, which were:
1) Theft from witness no. 13, mason Nielsen at Holmen, Christiania on the night between january 30 and 31 1861 committed by no. 1, 2 and 4. The thiefs had taken the neighbors ladder and put it up towards the window in the second floor, broken the glass and opened the window and after having come inside broken a cupboard and stolen 60 bills among which 30 (rest of page missing)
1 drawing set, having 3 knives, 1 pencilholder engraved with the name of witness no. 13 and 1 piece of ?? and more. The thiefs had left behind a sheath knife and excretion from upset stomach. The suspicion was immediately steered on no. 1 and 2 which the same night had been close to the scene of the crime. From witness no. 71 and 33 detailed statements were given with regard to the participation by no. 1. These witnesses, two earlier convicted persons, who were also suspected for new crimes were in custody with no. 1 where he had told them that he and other persons had commited the theft at the house of witness no. 13. No. 1 stated however that he was at home on the night in question, but witness no. 47 and 76 gave proof that he under suspicious circumstances had been together with no. 2 and 4 that night at the house of witness no. 47 who lived close to the scene of the crime, and on March 27 witness no. 45 found a tin pail buried in the snow close to no. 1 living quarters which contained much of the stolen goods recognized by him and his wife, witness no. 44, which were eye glasses, drawing set, pencilholder with the name of witness no. 13, hearing aid, totthpicks, knives, folding rule, Indian ink, and on several of these articles no. 13 had beforehand set his personal mark . Regarding the tin pail no.1 and his wife, witness no. 46, gave shilly-shally statements. First witness no. 46 said they had had two such tin pails and that the smallest one resembled the pail put forward, but that it was not their pail and that she had sold it some time ago. No. 1 however said that he himself had sold it at the market place in January. To cover this contradiction no. 1 said that he had insufficient recollection (rest of page missing)"
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
138 Posts |
Posted - 14/01/2010 : 20:37:37
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Thanks, Einar.
I really appreciate this.
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Pip
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
138 Posts |
Posted - 15/01/2010 : 04:44:45
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I've been sharing this info with a descendant of the SVERSEN/INGVOLDSEN family. He's tried to find a death for August Severin Dyvat INGVOLDSEN (following his life sentence), but has been unsuccessful.
He wrote (email):
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I could find no record of August's death in Akershus festnings slaveri: 1913-1950, Parish register (official) up to the end of 1926 when the personal data protection time limit came into being.
I have looked for August in the 1875 census, but cannot find him under first name "August" and surnames containing "ngv" or "gv" or "nv". Also tried first name containing "dyv" without success. This suggests he may have died between the 1865 and 1875 censi.
Could someone please help me find this death? Or, is there a restriction on prisoner information?
Thanks. |
Pip
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Norsewood Cemetery & Settlers' Genealogies Project
www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz |
Edited by - NearNorsewood on 15/01/2010 04:48:00 |
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NearNorsewood
Kiwi Viking special member
New Zealand
138 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2010 : 20:57:11
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Pip
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Norsewood Cemetery & Settlers' Genealogies Project
www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz |
Edited by - NearNorsewood on 17/01/2010 20:58:32 |
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