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angequinn
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 Posted - 16/02/2010 : 01:32:22
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I recently discovered my great-great grandfather's full name. I am wondering if the information that was given to me a few years ago is correct. I feel bad asking because you all have done so much already, however, I want to confirm that this is the same person now that I know his full name. Thank you. (Previous posts are pasted below.)
Samuel Helgeson Dahlen
Birth 22 Feb 1844 in Telemarken Norway
Death 9 Jan 1908 in Becker County, Minnesota
Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 15/09/2007 22:55:29
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Do you know the given name of Samuels father - starts possibly with H, there are too many Dahlen farms in Telemark to track Samuel.
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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 16/09/2007 11:34:21
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Samuel born feb. 22 was from Gransherad, his parents was Hølje Halvorsen and Ingebjør Samuelsdtr Dalen #8
Gransherad 1865, Samuels parents and 4 children living on Dalen , his father Hølje was born in Hjartdal.
Hølje Halvorsen was born on Hovde in Tudal (a mountain countryside) in Hjartdal Sept.15, christened Oct. 10 1813, left section down page, his father was Halvor Høljesen Hovde
Hjartdal 1801:
Halvor (Høljesen) and his parents, farmer Helje (Hølje) Ingebretsen age 59 and Tore Torgrimsdtr age 59, both married 2. time. Anne age 13 is their daughter and Ingebiør age 29 is employeed as a servant on farm Hovde
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/02/2010 : 01:56:30
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You are saying that you have now found an American record which calls him : Samuel Helgeson Dahlen
and you are trying to determine if that is the same as the Samuel Høljesen (born on the identical date in Telemark) and who lived on a farm called Dalen in Telemark in the 1865 Norwegian census.
I think it very very possible that Americans would alter the spelling of Høljesen to Helgeson, don't you?? The birth dates and the location of Telemark are EXACT matches. I think you've got the best match I've seen in a long time. |
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angequinn
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Posted - 16/02/2010 : 02:12:50
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| Thanks Hopkins for the prompt response! A distant cousin provided some handwritten family notes stating his full name as Samuel Helgeson Dahlen. I had no idea that Helgeson could be another spelling of Holjesen. I have an old photo of Samuel's father and it came with a note stating his name was Helge, which would make sense if that is a variation of Holje. Thank you so much for confirming. |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 17/02/2010 : 00:24:32
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You can never tell what spellings emigrants might use in a new country. They usually tried to make the name SOUND the same as it did originally - but their creativeness is always surprising. You must be ready for anything and have to use all of your good sense to figure these things out.
For example, it is hard to explain to an American some of the usage of the J letter in Norwegian. I have a very very good friend named Hjornevik -- her family kept the spelling almost identical to the original. But a large family from Kjellesvik farm - changed to a list of American spellings including Kjellsvig, Chelsvig, etc. etc. The family from the Espe farm had no problems - they kept using Espe and still do -- except of course for the two brothers families who remained Olson or Oleson to this day in the US.
The Norwegian alphabet characters that are not used in English spelling are substituted with some other choice by the emigrants - no standard rules for that -- they each made their own choices. |
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