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TomJohnson
Starting member
USA
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 Posted - 04/03/2010 : 16:23:32
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I am new to this, so please bear with me, I know that my Great-grandfather Hans Johnson was born in Trogstad July 29, 1863, his father was Hans Kristian Johnson born 1833, not sure where. I have tried going through the sites listed but am not having any luck with on-line translators. Any and all suggestions would be helpful & appreciated.
Hans Kristian Johnson was married to Karen Marie Hansdatter, Born 1833
Hans Johnson was married to Thora Braaten, Born August 29, 1874, They were married in 1892 in Waldcott, ND
I have fairly good records for the family in the US. It all stops with Hans Kristian in Norway.
Thank you, Tom Johnson |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2010 : 18:41:00
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No Hans Johnsen born July 29 in the parish register for Trøgstad.
Where does this info come from, including the name and birth year for his parents? |
Einar |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7865 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2010 : 19:38:27
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Hi,
Have your searched for just a farm with the name Trogstad (or Trøgstad or other combination) in the 1865 census transcriptions online, rather than just in a parish of that name?
Here is one for instance:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f60235&gardpostnr=3&merk=3#ovre
One other item, if this family followed the traditional Norwegian naming pattern, your Hans would have been a Hanson not Johnson in Norway since his father's name was Hans.
Here is another possible from the Kristiania emigrants list at the digitalarkivet:
1875 404 15 173b 29.04.1875 30.04.1875 Hans Jens. Trøgstad ug Arbeidsm. m 25 Nannestad Præst. Rushford Minnesotta Henderson Brothers Hero Amerikaner
Jackie M. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 04/03/2010 19:53:45 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9459 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2010 : 22:27:10
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It will help if you can share a little more information on Hans. For example you mention that he was married to Thora in North Dakota in 1892, but did he continue to live there or is this him in Orgeon in 1900 US Census. If it is him it gives us some informatin on his date of immigration.
Name: Hans Johnson
Home in 1900: North Silverton, Marion, Oregon
Age: 36
Birth Date: Jul 1863
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Spouse's name: Thora
Marriage Year: 1892
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 8
Residence : North Silverton and South Silverton Precincts (Excl. Siverton City), Marion, Oregon
Household Members: Name Age
Hans Johnson 36
Thora Johnson 25
Henry Johnson 7
Clara M Johnson 5
Alma C Johnson 3
Hannah S Johnson 1
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2010 : 22:40:35
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Hi.
Jensen could be changed to Johnsen in USA?
Your Hans Johnsen was bap. Hans Hansen in Norway (Norwegian traditional naming).
Perhaps Trostad was changed to Trogstad in USA, or more likely since there was no Trostad /Trostadhøiden farms in the 1865 census for Østre Toten, Trostad (Trostadhøiden) in Hans birth record belove was a wrongspelling for Trogstad?
Except for Jensen and Trostad the following names and date correspond.
I have a possible candidate for you born on farm Trostadhøiden July 29. 1863 bap. Nov. 1 in Østre Toten parish, Oppland County. Parents: Hans Jensen and Karen Hansdtr, see #197
Add. info:
There were 4 Trogstad farms in Østre Toten in 1865.
Karen Hansdatter was Karen Marie Hansdtr and Hans Jensen was Hans Kristian Jensen, he was from farm Skramstad in Østre Toten and she from Hurdal parish, Akershus County, they married in Hurdal April 22. 1857, see#11
Acc. the 1865 census for Østre Toten Hans had two brothers, Martin age 8 and Julius age 6, living as renters in Fjeldhaug brick works.
Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 05/03/2010 00:35:44 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2010 : 00:02:00
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Hans Hansen Trogstad age 18 from Østre Toten emigrated 1881 with ship Rollo, dest Red Wing, see here
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TomJohnson
Starting member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2010 : 02:47:06
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I am using info that a cousin used to build a family tree. As to where he got his info from I will attempt to find out. Thank you for responding.
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Originally posted by eibache
No Hans Johnsen born July 29 in the parish register for Trøgstad.
Where does this info come from, including the name and birth year for his parents?
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TomJohnson
Starting member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2010 : 02:52:22
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As I said, I am new to this but I did go to the site you have there but I need a better translator. I am looking for one as we speak. I will try your suggestions, Thank you.
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
Hi,
Have your searched for just a farm with the name Trogstad (or Trøgstad or other combination) in the 1865 census transcriptions online, rather than just in a parish of that name?
Here is one for instance:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f60235&gardpostnr=3&merk=3#ovre
One other item, if this family followed the traditional Norwegian naming pattern, your Hans would have been a Hanson not Johnson in Norway since his father's name was Hans.
Here is another possible from the Kristiania emigrants list at the digitalarkivet:
1875 404 15 173b 29.04.1875 30.04.1875 Hans Jens. Trøgstad ug Arbeidsm. m 25 Nannestad Præst. Rushford Minnesotta Henderson Brothers Hero Amerikaner
Jackie M.
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TomJohnson
Starting member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2010 : 02:55:48
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I will check those this evening, thank you... I have to say the responses I have received have been amazing.
quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto
Hi.
Jensen could be changed to Johnsen in USA?
Your Hans Johnsen was bap. Hans Hansen in Norway (Norwegian traditional naming).
Perhaps Trostad was changed to Trogstad in USA, or more likely since there was no Trostad /Trostadhøiden farms in the 1865 census for Østre Toten, Trostad (Trostadhøiden) in Hans birth record belove was a wrongspelling for Trogstad?
Except for Jensen and Trostad the following names and date correspond.
I have a possible candidate for you born on farm Trostadhøiden July 29. 1863 bap. Nov. 1 in Østre Toten parish, Oppland County. Parents: Hans Jensen and Karen Hansdtr, see #197
Add. info:
There were 4 Trogstad farms in Østre Toten in 1865.
Karen Hansdatter was Karen Marie Hansdtr and Hans Jensen was Hans Kristian Jensen, he was from farm Skramstad in Østre Toten and she from Hurdal parish, Akershus County, they married in Hurdal April 22. 1857, see#11
Acc. the 1865 census for Østre Toten Hans had two brothers, Martin age 8 and Julius age 6, living as renters in Fjeldhaug brick works.
Kåre
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TomJohnson
Starting member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2010 : 03:04:53
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Yes, that is him, Hannah S passed away in 1900
Hannah J was born in 1902
Tillie C 1904
Helen M 1906
Laurence 1909
Melvin S 1913 My Grandfather
Lorraine L 1917
You folks on this forum are awesome, Thank you
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Originally posted by lyndal40
It will help if you can share a little more information on Hans. For example you mention that he was married to Thora in North Dakota in 1892, but did he continue to live there or is this him in Orgeon in 1900 US Census. If it is him it gives us some informatin on his date of immigration.
Name: Hans Johnson
Home in 1900: North Silverton, Marion, Oregon
Age: 36
Birth Date: Jul 1863
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Spouse's name: Thora
Marriage Year: 1892
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 8
Residence : North Silverton and South Silverton Precincts (Excl. Siverton City), Marion, Oregon
Household Members: Name Age
Hans Johnson 36
Thora Johnson 25
Henry Johnson 7
Clara M Johnson 5
Alma C Johnson 3
Hannah S Johnson 1
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TomJohnson
Starting member
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Posted - 05/03/2010 : 03:07:44
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I would agree, this all looks very promising and I will be following up on everything I have recieved today. Thank you
quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto
Hi.
Jensen could be changed to Johnsen in USA?
Your Hans Johnsen was bap. Hans Hansen in Norway (Norwegian traditional naming).
Perhaps Trostad was changed to Trogstad in USA, or more likely since there was no Trostad /Trostadhøiden farms in the 1865 census for Østre Toten, Trostad (Trostadhøiden) in Hans birth record belove was a wrongspelling for Trogstad?
Except for Jensen and Trostad the following names and date correspond.
I have a possible candidate for you born on farm Trostadhøiden July 29. 1863 bap. Nov. 1 in Østre Toten parish, Oppland County. Parents: Hans Jensen and Karen Hansdtr, see #197
Add. info:
There were 4 Trogstad farms in Østre Toten in 1865.
Karen Hansdatter was Karen Marie Hansdtr and Hans Jensen was Hans Kristian Jensen, he was from farm Skramstad in Østre Toten and she from Hurdal parish, Akershus County, they married in Hurdal April 22. 1857, see#11
Acc. the 1865 census for Østre Toten Hans had two brothers, Martin age 8 and Julius age 6, living as renters in Fjeldhaug brick works.
Kåre
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TomJohnson
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2010 : 04:26:34
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When I was growing up I was told that our family name had been changed to Johnson from Scrumstad. When I got older I was told that wasn't true but could never figure out where Scrumstad or Skramstad had come from, now I think I do.
I don't want to misspell your name but I'm still trying to figure how to get my keyboard to be smarter than me. Thanks again
quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto
Hi.
Jensen could be changed to Johnsen in USA?
Your Hans Johnsen was bap. Hans Hansen in Norway (Norwegian traditional naming).
Perhaps Trostad was changed to Trogstad in USA, or more likely since there was no Trostad /Trostadhøiden farms in the 1865 census for Østre Toten, Trostad (Trostadhøiden) in Hans birth record belove was a wrongspelling for Trogstad?
Except for Jensen and Trostad the following names and date correspond.
I have a possible candidate for you born on farm Trostadhøiden July 29. 1863 bap. Nov. 1 in Østre Toten parish, Oppland County. Parents: Hans Jensen and Karen Hansdtr, see #197
Add. info:
There were 4 Trogstad farms in Østre Toten in 1865.
Karen Hansdatter was Karen Marie Hansdtr and Hans Jensen was Hans Kristian Jensen, he was from farm Skramstad in Østre Toten and she from Hurdal parish, Akershus County, they married in Hurdal April 22. 1857, see#11
Acc. the 1865 census for Østre Toten Hans had two brothers, Martin age 8 and Julius age 6, living as renters in Fjeldhaug brick works.
Kåre
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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TomJohnson
Starting member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2010 : 04:37:24
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| Thank you, Lyndal |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2010 : 09:13:49
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| Here is also a useful translator |
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Edited by - eibache on 05/03/2010 10:57:31 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2010 : 10:22:17
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Hans Christian Jensen was born Jan 28 1835, see #44 his parents Jens Nielsen and Kari Hansdatter, Skramstad.
Karen Maria Hansdatter, born Sept 25 1834, see #82 her parents Sergeant Hans Rognstad and Maria Olsdatter.
Karen Maria had an older brother Nils Laurits born Jan 23 1833, see #29 parents Sergeant Hans Jørgensen Rognstad and Maria Olsdatter.
Hans Jørgensen and Maria Olsdatter in 1865
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Edited by - eibache on 05/03/2010 10:56:59 |
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Need help researching Johnson family in Trogstad
