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Joe Holman Halsrud
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  03:09:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm looking for any emmigration or immigration information for the following person, but having great difficulty finding it.

Here are my known clues:

- name referenced as Syverinne Dokkesveen in Iowa book (recent)
- 1910 Iowa census denotes first name as Severine
- census says immigrated about 1882
- census says age was 69, so born in 1841 in Norway
- married to Hans Andreas Olsen (Halsrud) - Hans emmigrated 1873.

I couldn't find any good match on digitalarchive -- maybe you can?

Also, does the name Dokkesveen denote something about being from Dokka?

Joe Holman (Halsrud)

Kåarto
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  10:51:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
Dokkesveen is located to Nordsinni sub parish, Nordre Land municipality, Oppland county.

The records for Land

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Hopkins
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  11:42:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Intended destination "Boda" (Bode) in 1883.
Parents still lived on Dokkesveen in the 1865 Norwegian census.

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=14&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=67231&sokefelt=skjul

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Kåarto
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  14:06:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of the early Landings settlements from the two parish´s Nordre - and Søndre Land was Bode Iowa, they called themselves Landinger in USA.

Nordsinni is west from Dokka, see south in this map

In 1924 Hans Andreas Halsrud, Bode, Iowa was a member of Landingslaget

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 03/04/2010 14:11:55
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Joe Holman Halsrud
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  19:58:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah ha! This is another case of the "name used in Norway isn't neccessarily the same used in the U.S., even in a family book" !

I also made the mistake of not looking in the Kristiania port, since everyone else had been using Oslo.

Nice to have a fresh set of eyes look at the data.

Takk så mye, Joe.

Joe Holman (Halsrud)
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eibache
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  22:08:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Syrene Amundsdatter, 37 years old, who emigrated 1883 was actually born March 10 1841 and baptized Severine on April 18, see #65.
When she was confirmed in 1856 she was called Syverine, see #11.
She was born when the parents were at Lie-ejet (Lidseie), parents obviously moved to Dokkesveen later.
It was Severines mother who came from Liedseiet, see the marriage #16. Her father came from Komperud.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 03/04/2010 22:22:47
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Hopkins
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  22:30:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kristiania = Oslo. There are two databases because they do not completely duplicate each other. Always check both.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  23:06:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You asked if the name Dokkesveen had something about being from Dokka.

Dokka is the name of the river that flows into lake Randsfjorden.
Sveen is coming from the old norse Svida, it means to burn, the land was among the first settlers cleared by setting the forest on fire.

Perhaps you know? Emigrants from Land used a very special emigration route to Oslo, I read about it in a letter from the 1880s I recieved from the US some time ago.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 03/04/2010 23:08:51
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Joe Holman Halsrud
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  23:26:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

No, I haven't heard about the route - can you share the route information?

So, is Dokkesveen just a general area or a particular farm name?

Thanks, Joe.

Joe Holman (Halsrud)
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Kåarto
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  23:58:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the map from above.

In the letter I recieved the emigrattion was late April.

The journey from Land first went east to Gjøvik town at lake Mjøsa, if the ice was gone, normally in Mai, you could enter Skibladner, next stop was Eidsvoll in Akershus County where the train took them to Oslo.

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Kåarto
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Posted - 04/04/2010 :  00:11:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This area where Dokkesveen and Dokka is located is also called Dokkavassdraget.

Dokka is the name of the river, vassdraget is a description of a coherent system of streams, lakes and rivers originating from the mountain.

The ending Sveen is used in various names on farms in Land.

Kåre
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Joe Holman Halsrud
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Posted - 04/04/2010 :  00:28:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, in the 1865 census, I see the farm name as:

Nordsinnen Hælgeruds-Skov Dokkesveen

Where exactly is that? I don't see Hælgeruds listed in Boka Om Land XV.

Joe.

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Hopkins
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Posted - 04/04/2010 :  01:20:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The parish was called Nordsinni -- the farm name in the 1865 census capture for the parents of Syverine is "Hælgeruds-Skov Dokkesveen". Her father is listed as "Husmand med Jord" which means he was not a farm owner and just was a renter of a house with a bit of land - a "plass". (If you have much Iowa experience you can think of it as a hired man's place).
Another look at the "Merknad (gard)" numbers show both "Hælgerud" and "Hælgeruds-Skov Dokkesveen" as 67a and 67b... both might be small places that were absorbed back into larger older farms...

Check the reference you mention for all the farms beginning with "H" and containing "rud". Spellings change...

Edited by - Hopkins on 04/04/2010 01:23:29
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Joe Holman Halsrud
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Posted - 04/04/2010 :  02:53:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just realized that the volume XV is just for Ostsinni, not including Norsinni...

I'll have to get a copy for that area now...

Joe.

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Kåarto
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Posted - 04/04/2010 :  20:36:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hælgerud - Helgerud was a farm north from Dokka in Austsinni (Ostsinni) sub parish close to the Nordsinni border.
Hælgeruds skov means Helgerud forest, Dokkasveen was a sub farm, I am not sure but it could have been a sub farm under Hælgerud.

The 1900 census has no Dokkasveen but Helgerudssveen, a sub farm under Helgerud.

Write "Dokka nordre land" in the window top left in this map,click SØK, you will find Nordsinni north-west of Dokka and Austsinni north-east of Dokka.

Kåre


Edited by - Kåarto on 04/04/2010 20:40:12
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