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davidlasch
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 Posted - 13/05/2010 : 21:13:47
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I have hit a wall looking for Andrew Andersen b. Sept 1844 or 47, and his wife Gunhild b. 1849. According to US census records they arrived in the US about 1886. They have a daughter, Gertrude born in Brooklyn in Sept of 1886. 2 children born in Norway - Mathilda b. 1871 and Axel b. 1877.
Not sure what direction to look in for more info on them. I can't locate any immigration records for them to narrow down where in Norway to look for them.
Thanks for any advice! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 13/05/2010 : 23:14:53
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Do you know if Andrew and Gunhild travelled togeher without children back and forth to Norway in 1906. Here is a couple Andrew and Gunhild Andersen, nationality American with address listed as Home, 652 58th street, Brooklyn. Place of birth is listed as Mandal.
Here is the Ancestry.com listing for Gunhild
Name: Gunhild Andersen
Arrival Date: 30 Oct 1906
Birth Year: abt 1850
Age: 56
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Christianssand S, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Hellig Olav
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/05/2010 : 23:17:51
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Here is the Ancestry.com listing for Andrew
Name: Andrew Andersen
Arrival Date: 30 Oct 1906
Birth Year: abt 1847
Age: 59
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Christianssand S, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Hellig Olav
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peder
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Posted - 13/05/2010 : 23:20:53
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here is the census:
[Gunhild Anderson]
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 8, Kings, New York
Age: 50
Birth Date: Nov 1849
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1886
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 5
Spouse's name: Andrew
Marriage Year: 1872
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 28
Residence : New York City, Kings, New York
Occupation: View on Image
Andrew Andersen 52 1847
Gunheld Andersen 50 1849
Axel Andersen 23
Gertrude Andersen 13 b. NY
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/05/2010 : 23:36:37
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An interesting departure from Kristiansand on April 29th, 1887:
Olene Andersen, b 1845, residence Mandal, Vest Agder
Amalie Andersen, b 1867, residence Mandal, Vest Agder
Aksel Andersen, b 1877, residence Mandal, Vest Agder
Gunhild Andersen, b 1882, residence Mandal, Vest Agder
Peder Andersen, b 1884, residence Mandal, Vest Agder
Jan Peter
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/05/2010 : 23:45:22
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Yes, here is their arrival into New York, first for Axel as this is about the only Axel Andersen that I can find in Ancestry.com that even comes close to fitting the criteria.
Name: Axel Andersen
Arrival Date: 16 May 1887
Birth Year: abt 1877
Age: 10
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Island
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/05/2010 : 23:55:17
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Here is the data on Olene travelling with Amalie 20, Axel 10, Peder and Gunhild whose ages are difficult to read in the original manifest.
Name: Olene Andersen
Arrival Date: 16 May 1887
Birth Year: abt 1845
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Island
Looking at the 1900 US Census shows a birthdate for Gertude of Sep 1886 |
Edited by - AntonH on 14/05/2010 00:18:18 |
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davidlasch
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Posted - 14/05/2010 : 01:15:58
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| I don't know if they ever went back to Norway. While they lived in Brooklyn that does not seem to be the right address. All this info will give me someplace to start to search. Hopefully I will find something! Thanks everyone for your help. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/05/2010 : 03:49:06
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Andrew Andersen could have immigrated separately and earlier than the rest of the family, looking at the three US Census
1900 US Census immigrated 1880 or 1884 (Looking at the orginal census, I think the year is 1880 but 1884 agrees with years in US)
1910 US Census immigrated 1885 (Unfortunately does not agree with the other two)
1920 US Census immigrated 1880 (Again I think the year is best read as 1880 and he is naturalized in 1885)
Gunhiid
1900 US Census 1886 (agrees with years in US)
1910 US Census 1887
1920 US Census (unfortunately already deceased)
Just something to ponder
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/05/2010 : 05:06:34
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Hi,
I suppose that you have already looked at the Italian Genealogical Group website New York Death index. On the off chance that you haven't here is a Gunhild Andersen d. 1910-1920:
Surname Given Name Age Month Day Year Certificate
Number County Soundex
Andersen Gunhild 60 y Jan 29 1911 2100 Kings A536
Age is about right, is Kings county the right place?
Jackie M.
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davidlasch
Senior member
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Posted - 14/05/2010 : 13:54:30
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Thanks. I will spend some time trying to use these clues and see where they takes me. Yes that is Gunhild's death record but Gunhild and Andrew's death records offer no clues as to their parents or where they came from other than Norway.
I know I just have to turn over that right rock and it will all come together! Thanks for the info.
David
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/05/2010 : 21:54:25
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Hi,
Have you checked the WWI draft registration database for the son Axel? He is just on the edge of the age limitation (too old in 1917-1918) but sometimes a more exact birthplace is given in it than just Norway... What became of Mathilda?
Hilsen,
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davidlasch
Senior member
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Posted - 14/05/2010 : 22:19:47
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I was just checking for draft registrations! There is one he could be but there is no image so there is no birthplace.
Mathilda married Petter Iversen, they lived in Brooklyn also. They are buried with Gunhild and Andrew in Greenwood cemetery in Brooklyn.
thanks
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/05/2010 : 22:36:49
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Hi,
Here is the Gunhild Marie from an earlier post marriage to somebody but not Andrew (Anders) Anderson, so mitigates against her a bit:
Source information: Vest-Agder county, Halse, Parish register (official) nr. A 14 (1859-1872), Marriage records 1870, page 399, #16.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=885&idx_id=885&uid=ny&idx_side=-401
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060106020802.jpg
So you have exercised "due diligence" on each of the children and exhausted records on them?
The Andrew / Gunhild couple traveling in 1906, if already naturalized may have applied for a passport and there is a database of some of those from New York on Ancestry.
Did the family belong to a Norwegian Lutheran church in the US?
Hilsen,
Jackie M.
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davidlasch
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Posted - 14/05/2010 : 22:42:50
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Thanks - I am going back thru each of the children now trying to make sure I have checked everything. I don't see where Gunhild ever was naturalized on the census records, only Andrew.
I do know the church they went to in Brooklyn so that might be a place to write for more information.
I appreciate all the suggestions!
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