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TerryKjos
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  00:16:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Need a second pair of eyes in order to try to make out some names from the parish records please.

The marriage record for Christoffer Henningsen Schreiner and Anne Andreasdatter - was hoping that I'd find the fathers names here but they don't appear to be there. What are the names of the witnesses? Is Christoffer's occupation listed there before his name?

Also this engagement record for Carl Henrik Schreiner and Anne Mathea Gulbrandsd. - Which names are listed here other than the bride and the groom? I can't make them out.

Do these 2 records indicate a birth/baptismal place for Christoffer and or Anne so that I can look within those records? I've also had no luck finding Christoffer in the 1865/1875 census. According to

According to FamilySearch there are a few possibilities of a baptismal record for Christoffer in Buskerud and Hedmark, but I can't rule out Oslo either.

Thanks in advance.

Hopkins
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  01:15:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The engagement record for the widower Christoffer Henningsen Schreiner and the maiden Anne Andreasdatter has more info about their ancestry.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=572&idx_id=572&uid=ny&idx_side=-85

Edited by - Hopkins on 28/05/2010 02:40:24
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TerryKjos
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  02:13:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think that Christoffer and Anne were engaged in 1855 if they were married in 1850. This did remind me to look within the Banns register though. Thanks.

The correct record is here, No. 137..

So Christoffer's father was Henning Schreiner, born in Kongsberg? and died 28 Apr 1840 of ... ? Anne's father was Andreas Andersen, born 30 Oct in Fåberg, died 4 Nov 1829. Translation welcomed.

Will begin to look in Kongsberg and Fåberg, Oppland for these families.

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Hopkins
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  02:33:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I had multiple windows open and just copied the wrong link.

What is the relationship between Christoffer Henningsen Schreiner/Anne Andreasdatter and Carl Henrik Schreiner/Anne Mathea Gulbrandsd. that the two records might give information about the first couple?
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TerryKjos
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  02:55:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Carl Henrik is the son of Christoffer and Anne.

Carl Henrik is in the 1900 census with Anne Mathea and children. Have not been able to find him in 1865 or 1875 though.

I believe that I found baptismal record for Anne's father, Andreas Andersen, on FamilySearch. b. 28 Jan 1799, baptized 03 Mar 1799 in Faaberg, Oppland. Father: Andreas Broche, Mother: Gjertrud. It looks like the parish records for this time were a "chronological list," but trying to find it now. Edit: Doesn't correspond with info in previous post.

Do you think that Kongsberg in Buskerud is correct for Christoffer? Buskerud, Oppland, Oslo - quite the range.

Edited by - TerryKjos on 28/05/2010 03:07:50
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TerryKjos
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  03:37:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Carl Henrick's baptismal record, No. 28
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7706&idx_id=7706&uid=ny&idx_side=-30
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eibache
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  05:12:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
So Christoffer's father was Henning Schreiner, born in Kongsberg? and died 28 Apr 1840 of ... ? Anne's father was Andreas Andersen, born 30 Oct in Fåberg, died 4 Nov 1829. Translation welcomed.

Christoffer Henningsen Schreiner, son of Henning Schreiner, was a widower and mason, he was 34 years and born in Kongsberg. His first wife died April 28 1850 and was burried in Ager. (He showed a will dated Oct 24 1849)
Anne Andreasdatter was the daughter of Andreas Andreasen, born in Faaberg Oct 30 1824 and confirmed May 13 1839.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 28/05/2010 11:36:07
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eibache
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  05:33:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Christoffers baptismal record is #17.
Parents Henning Johannesen Schreiner and Karen Johannesdatter.

Annes baptismal record is #58.
Parents Andreas and Marthe Præstmoen.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 28/05/2010 05:41:01
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eibache
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  11:48:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe the father of Anne Andreasdatter was Andreas Larsen, not Andreasen. At her baptismal record the parents are recorded as Andreas and Marthe Præstmoen.
Their marriage record is most likely #38, i.e. Andreas Larsen, Præstmoen and Marthe Pedersdatter, Gustum.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 28/05/2010 15:15:16
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  13:37:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karen Johansdatter Breikop age 34 married Henning Johannesen age 34 in Kongsberg church April 26. 1817, she is recorded as Karen Johansdatter Christopher Schrøder, see right page #21.

Why Christopher Schrøder is mentioned I do not know, perhaps Christopher Breiekop and Christopher Schrøder was same person.
Lots of Schrøders in Kongsberg and the surrounding country side in the 1700s and 1800s.

Karen was born 1781, christened Karen Marie Oct. 26.
Father; Johan Johan Xstophersen/Christophersen Breikop, se right page 4. christ. from top here

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 28/05/2010 17:38:04
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  13:55:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karens mother was Berthe Pedersdatter Sougstad (Saugstuen).

Johan Johan Xstophersen Breikop married Berthe Pedersdatter Saugstad Oct. 20. 1781, see left page 5. from top here

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 28/05/2010 13:56:46
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  14:24:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
Probate register Kongsberg 1781:

Desceased Anders Pedersen, left no heirs, see here.
Heirs;
- Father Peder Saugstuen, dead
- Mother Ellen Nielsdatter, widow after Anders Monsen
- Sister Berthe Pedersdatter married to Johan Xstophersen
- Brother in Law Johan Christophersen Breikop married to Berthe Pedersdatter
- Sister Ellen Magrete Pedersdatter, employeed at Mrs. Poppe
- Steph-father Anders Monsen, dead.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 28/05/2010 14:25:19
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eibache
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  15:04:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Why Christopher Schrøder is mentioned I do not know, perhaps Christopher Breiekop and Christopher Schrøder was same person.
Lots of Schrøders in Kongsberg and the surrounding country side in the 1700s and 1800s.
- very simple explanation Kåre. It says "Karen Johansen, Christopher Skrøders Enke"!


Einar
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  15:13:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Einar,
I found out when I looked into another wedding record:
..........af Christopher Schrøder.

Kåre
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  15:31:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probater regiseter 1766, deceased Peder Saugstad, recidence Dyrmyr, here

Heirs:
wife Eli Nielsen
son Anders Pedersen age 10
daughter Berthe Pedersdatter age 11,5
daughter Ellen Margrete Pedersdatter age 6
cousin Jens Olsen Fisher.

Kåre




Edited by - Kåarto on 28/05/2010 15:34:03
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eibache
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Posted - 28/05/2010 :  15:32:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Annes father, Andreas Larsen was baptized Dec 8 1801, see top record here. Father Lars Præstgaarden. (Lars Iversen, servant, see 1801 census).

Lars Iversen P.gaarden and Anne Thorsdatter were married Sept 13 1801, see 4th couple in left column.


Einar
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