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MAJA520S
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 Posted - 20/06/2010 : 17:44:48
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Hi, I am looking for help with this family. Not sure if names and dates are exactly correct. What I have is: Kittl Olson Bakka born 1819 in Tinn, Telemark, Norway. He married Geo. Herbjornsdatter Hoyset ) Not sure what Geo. stands for) born 1823 Tinn, Telemark, Norway.
Children born in Norway 1.) Ole C - 1846 2.) Herjorn - 1848
Next child 3.) Sarah was said to be born in Canada
It is said in Ole C Bakers obit here in the US that they immigrated in 1850.
Not sure when they left Norway
If anyone can help? Thank-you in advance
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Kåarto
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Posted - 20/06/2010 : 18:35:59
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Her name was Gro, Gro Herbjørnsdatter.
They left Tinn mai 1. 1850, Kittil Olsen Bakka and "Hustru" Wife Gro Herbjørnsdatter with sons; Ole age 4 and Herbjørn age 2, see right page #13
They married Feb. 22. 1846.
Fathers; Ole Knudsen Bakka and Herjørn Olsen Høyset, see on top left page#7.
Seems like they married in H, see left margin: Hovin church, must be an older church since Hovin was build 1850.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 20/06/2010 20:29:53 |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 20/06/2010 : 20:16:22
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Thank-you Kåre!
You are so much help to all of us. I believe it was you who helped me a couple years ago with the Christopher Førlie family!
I am already confused about the link to the page. (see right page #13) What I see on #13 appears to be Aslaüg 1849. Is this what I am suppose to be seeing? Is this the Parish exit record for Kittil Olsen Bakka and family? If so can you help explain what I am looking at?
Also mai 1. 1850. Does that translate to May 1 1850?
Thanks, Jodie
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 20/06/2010 : 20:20:59
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Hi Kåre
After moving up on page to the other 13 I see it. Thank-you again!
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Kåarto
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Posted - 20/06/2010 : 20:24:06
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Hi, now I remember, the Førlie family from Flesberg.
It´s nothing wrong with your eyes, but you are looking on wrong person and Aslaug who emigrated 1851, your Kittil Olsen Bakka is higher up on the same page.
I put in the marriage record in my former posting.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 20/06/2010 20:28:56 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 20/06/2010 : 20:57:54
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Hi,
Kittil was born April 6. 1819 on Bakka in Hovin subparish in Gransherad (Hovin merged with Tinn and is a municipality of its own today).
He was christened in church Mai 16.
Parents;
Ole Knudsen and Sigrid Kittilsdatter Bakka, see left page #3
Kittil was named after his mothers father Kittil which means he most likely had and older brother named Knud after his fathers father.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 21/06/2010 16:17:12 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 20/06/2010 : 21:26:53
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Gro was born on Høyseth in Hovin, Gransherad, b. August 21. christened in church Sept. 28. 1823.
Parents: Herbjørn Olsen and Gunhild Gunleksdatter Høiseth, see right page #7
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 20/06/2010 : 22:57:40
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Thank-you Kåre!
They have made it so much easier to save copies of the records with the PDF files!
Is it possible to find what ship they left Norway on?
A daughter was born in Sept 1850 and her death Cert here says she was born in Canada. I wonder if they came to a Port in Canada and then immigrated into the US.
Thanks, Jodie |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 21/06/2010 : 15:44:50
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Hi Jodie.
Yes it´s much easier to copy now.
Arr. Canada must be Quebec.
Some passenger lists from 1850 are saved.
The most intersting for me since Porsgrunn is the easiest port to reach from Tinn by using a row boat down 3 big lakes in Telemark to Porsgrunn town is Bark Norden, no passenger list available, arr. Quebec Mai 20.
They are recorded leaving Tinn Mai 1. but could be they left earlier or from another port, Bark Benedikte from Drammen and Bark Otilia from Sandefjord also seems intersting.
I think Ole Knudsen was from Wastved in Hovin when he married Sigrid Kittelsdatter Feb. 14. 1798 in Hovin (Haavind) church, they engaged Dec. 31. 1797.
Ole Wastved and Sigrid Kittelsdatter, see right page #29
Digitalarkivet is temporary down so I cannot confirm it with the 1801 census.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 21/06/2010 16:07:39 |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 22/06/2010 : 15:37:23
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Hi,
Would you know what Herjorn would translate to as an English name? I haven't found Ole's brother over here in LaSalle county and thought maybe he changed his name.
Thanks, Jodie
PS is the data base back up for the census?
Thanks again for all your help. It's so wonderful to have people like you in the world!! |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 22/06/2010 : 21:36:05
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Hi, you are welcome.
Using Herbjørn in the US would led to many questions about spelling.
Here on Norskklassen you can get a test in how Herbjørn sounded in Norway.
Normally first inital/initials was kept.
My grandpa´s uncle Colbjørn changed to Colby in the US.
Just a guess;
Herbjørn - Herb....
Guess Bakka also is very rare in the US, I have seen it a few times.
Digitalarkivet is still working slow.
Ole Knudsen and Sigrid Kittelsdatter on Bakken (Bakka) in Hovin 1801.
A daughter Groe, Knud Halvorsen age 67, widower, is Knud´s father, Anne Halvorsdtr. age 24 is a servant girl.
Groe (Gro) age 3 probably died young and your Gro was named after her.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 22/06/2010 21:41:12 |
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 21/07/2010 : 22:18:22
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Hi again,
Can you tell me about the 1801 census above? I understand who A daughter Groe, Knud Halvorsen age 67, widower, is Knud´s father, Anne Halvorsdtr. age 24 is a servant girl. are, But who are the rest of the names listed?
Is it all the same family or on the Bakka farm or neighbors?
Thanks, Jodie |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 09:43:29
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Hi,
Bakka was two main farms and two sub farms (Eggerue and Renslaae) in 1801
Eggerue is likely todays Eggerud and Renslaae todays Renslo.
Most likley Sigrid Kittilsdatter age 23 in 1801 (Ole Knudsens wife) was daughter to Kittil Olsen age 64, farmer on the 2. Bakka farm and Aslaoug Nerisdatter age 60.
Sigrid died on Bakka Nov. 14. 1827, buried Dec. 1. age 49.
LDS has Sigrid Kittilsdatter born ab. 1777 to Kittil Olsen Bakka and Asloug Nerisdatter.
From that I read they are Sigrids parents and Sigur 26, Ole 20, Halvor 15 and Aagoth 28 is her siblings.
Groe Gregersdatter age 36 was a servant girl.
Kåre
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 14:14:28
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Thank-you Kåre
That all makes sence to me now!
The LDS site, I don't trust to be a 100% right. With it being user submitted I have found so many mistakes on the families I have researched. I always back up what I find there with other source info as well..
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Kåarto
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 21:28:48
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Same for me, when it comes to genealogy I trust what my eyes are reading, LDS is a supplement consisting many mistakes because of all the submitters.
Your Sigrid was born to Kittel Olsen Bakken and Aslaug Nerisdatter, bap. in Hovind June 14, 1777 see right page #40
Kittel Olsen Backen og (and) Anloug Nerisdtrs Datter (Daughter) bap. Sigri.
Sigris death record from 1827 is here in the records from Heddal and Gransherad/Hovin
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 23/07/2010 : 06:07:12
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Wow! Kåre
You made me work for Sigris death record! That took some doing! lol
I did find it. I had to figure out a few Norwegian words first! lol
What is death or burial? I found it. I found a web page that translated the headings of the parish pages.
So much easier when you give me the Link! But I trust you will be a good teacher!
I may be a slow student though!!!
Thank-you, Jodie
Can we find Ole C Bakers Birth Parish record? Ole C Kittleson born- 1846 In my 1st posting here |
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