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Oyvlars
Junior member
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 Posted - 31/07/2010 : 15:06:45
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Do not use Tinn
but Gransherad
Knut and Birgit use Gransherad/Hovin 1815-1843
Aasne only Gransherad 1871 - 1886 |
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MAJA520S
Medium member
USA
114 Posts |
Posted - 31/07/2010 : 17:12:42
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Thank-you, I was able to find them with hints! |
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Oyvlars
Junior member
Norway
52 Posts |
Posted - 31/07/2010 : 18:32:54
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check your previous searches Gransherad instead of Tin
you get a little surprise |
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MAJA520S
Medium member
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114 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 03:23:56
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OK, But you may need to tell me. Because I have a hard time reading Norwegian and have asked for translation to make sure my dates are right. If there is anything else there in writing I wouldn't know what it says without help
Thanks, Jodie |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 10:36:22
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Hi Jodie,
I passed Flesberg twice yesterday on a trip to Numedal.
The family-line back to Ole Ktitelsen Mielland /Bakka and Aagot HalvorsdatterHafsten I picked from Hovinsoge published 2007.
Ole Kittelsen was Aagot´s 2. husband (her first husband was Hølje Hunleiksen Bolkesjø, he died 1727)
The members of Hovin Historian assosiation who wrote the book Hovinsoga .
Ole and Aagot got 6 children, all dates are baptism records are from Hjartdal church books:
- Hølje Feb. 15. 1730, named after Aagot´s 1. husband Hølje Gunleiksen to honor him.
- Ambiør Mai 15. 1731
- Neri Sept. 13. 1732
- Ingrid Mai 16. 1734
- Tore (Tora) July 14. 1736
- Your Kittel 1743
This info. is from Gransheradsoga published 1977
Aagot´s parents; Halvor Andersen Hafsten born on Kaali, 1656-1745 and Ingrid Thorkelsdatter Haave b. about 1659, died 1699 on Haave, shortly after Aagot was born.
We have common ancestors in Heddal.
Kåre
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 17:17:51
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Hi.
The last information I obtaned is from Hitterdalsboken by O.H.Holta published 1926.
Halvor Andersen Hafsten/ Kaali´s parents:
Anders Thorstensen Kaali and Tore Gregarsdatter Ryen/Rygi in Heddal. She was born on Ryen ab. 1630.
Anders Thorstensen is mentioned on Kaali in 1665, age 40, he died 1694.
Anders and Thore (Thora) got 8 children;
- Halvor, married Aslaug Gunleksdatter, 4 sons, Ole, Torsten, Helge and Andres and a daughter Aaaste who married Gullik Olsen Teigen.
- Thorsten d. 1693, left a daughter Torgunn
- Gregar, married 1701 Aslaug Kittelsdatter Bøen, 4 sons Andres, Kittel, Ole and Thorsten, 4 daughters, Thone, Gunne, Aslaug and Thone
- Ole
- Kittel
- Aase, married Thorsten Svalsestuen
- Aagot d. before 1694, married to Ole, left two sons, Hans and Gregar Olsen
- Thone.
Tell you about Thore Gregarsdatter´s family on Ryen later.
Kåre
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MAJA520S
Medium member
USA
114 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2010 : 05:33:04
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Thank-you Kåre
I will wait to hear more!
Jodie |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2010 : 10:39:18
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Hi.
Thore Greagarsdatter´s parents;
Gregar Halvorsen Ryen born about 1605, died 1671, married 1624 Gunne Halvorsdattr, she lived 1688, lived in N. "Nedre" (Lower) Ryens.
Nedre Ryen was called N "Northern" Ryen and "Store" Large Ryen.
Thee first churchbook is from 1648 so I only have the youngest of the siblings, Ole´s birth record.
Thore Gregarsdatter´siblings;
- Torgunn 1625- died on Holla, buried August 6. 1687, married before 1646 Stener Sondresen Bakka in Heddal, he died before 1655 (My ancestors from Ryen)
- Ragnild 162, d before 1690, married Ole Taraldsen Melaas, married 2. time widower Ellef Nielsen Tveitan
- Your Thore 1630
- Helge 1631, died on Sem, buried Mai. 4. 1709 age 78, married 4 times.
- Halvor 1640, d Sept. 1687, married before 1661 Margit Simonsdatter N. Sem, married 2. time Gunild Halvorsdatter Sætre, married 3. time Thone Kittelsdater. Halvor lived on Hellem 1665, cultivated Aakre 1665 and later on N. Ryen
- Hans 1643, d. on Huristveit, buried Oct. 19. 1706 as crippled, maried widow Ingeborg Torbjørnsdater Huristveit 1672
- Ingeborg 1645, died on S. (Southern) Sem, buried March 26. 1706, 1. husband Kittel Sveinungsen Vreim from Bø parish, 2. husband Kittil Thorstensen Holte
- Ole bap. 10. Sunday 1649, see right page Dom. 10. Gregar Ryens Barn (Child) : Ole.
Ole was beaten to death by Henrik Hanes March 21. 1699, buried April 20. 1699, married ab. 1670 Ingrid Thoresdatter b. 1646, died on Ylen 1696. buried Feb. 4.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 02/08/2010 10:43:02 |
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MAJA520S
Medium member
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114 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2010 : 13:12:14
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Kåre,
I’m sorry, I am confused with your last 2 postings.
This info. is from Gransheradsoga published 1977
Aagot´s parents; Halvor Andersen Hafsten born on Kaali, 1656-1745 and Ingrid Thorkelsdatter Haave b. about 1659,
obtaned is from Hitterdalsboken by O.H.Holta published 1926
Halvor Andersen Hafsten/ Kaali´s parents:
Anders Thorstensen Kaali and Tore Gregarsdatter Ryen/Rygi in Heddal. She was born on Ryen ab. 1630.
Anders Thorstensen is mentioned on Kaali in 1665, age 40, he died 1694.
Anders and Thore (Thora) got 8 children;
- Halvor, married Aslaug Gunleksdatter, 4 sons, Ole, Torsten, Helge and Andres and a daughter Aaaste who married Gullik Olsen Teigen.
Did Halvor Andersen Hafsten/ Kaali marry 2 times?
Thank-you, Jodie
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2010 : 14:15:35
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Sorry for the confusion Jodie.
Halvor Andersen married Aslaug Gunleksdatter , 4 sons and a daughter was Anders Thorstensen and Thore Gregarsdatter oldest son, a namesake to Aagots father Halvor Andersen Hafsten 1656-1745.
Here is the family tree that correspond with the information from the three books, lots of new names and dates may seem confusing the first time one reads it, but easy to navigate.
Still much more information to share from Ryen.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 02/08/2010 14:37:39 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2010 : 20:14:57
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Hi,
source; Hitterdalsboken.
Ryen 1645 census for "kopskatt", the owner had to pay tax for each head living on the farm. Gregar and his "quinde" woman is mentioned.
Ryen nedre (lower)1650, Gregar owns most of the farm, Torstein Bolkesjø from Gransherad owns a small part, the fee/tax was 5 Riksdaler.
Sem August 25. 1658, the Bailiff sued Gregar Ryen to have marked timber (without permission) further up in Heddal.
1660 census; Gregar Ryen age 60, his son Hans age 24, crippled and Ole age 14, a servant boy Halvor and a soldier lived on Ryen (only the owner, tax payer, and men/boys, potential soldiers, are mentioned.
Gregar Ryen died 1671, the probate register dated March 15. 1671 mention that Gregar died a short while ago.
Gregar (Halvorsen) Ryen was rather wealthy, owned farms or shares in farms in Gransherad, Hjartdal and Heddal, his last will;
The widow kept half of Ryen for the rest of her life, then her part in Ryen should be taken ower by the oldest son Halvor Gregarsen.
- Ole Gregarsen inherit a share in Ryen
- Hans Gregarsen inherit shares in Aakre and Skaardal
- Torgunn Gregarsdatter shares in Aakre and Dalen
- Ragnild Gregarsdatter shares in Aakre and Skardal
- Ragnild Gregarsdatter shares in Lonar and Rui
- Thore Gregarsdatter shares in Ryen and Busnes.
- Helge Gregarsdatter share in Ryen.
In addition the youngest son Ole got 30 Riksdaler extra to build a new house on S. (Southern) Ryen because the house there was in bad condition compare with the other farms.
Chattels switched heirs among themselves.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 02/08/2010 20:22:14 |
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MAJA520S
Medium member
USA
114 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2010 : 06:11:51
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Thank-you Kåre
I have a lot to sort out and enter to my family file.
I will get back to you with any questions.
Jodie |
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MAJA520S
Medium member
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114 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2010 : 00:29:36
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OK, Kåre
I do not know why I cannot figure this out. I cannot get past my confusion.
Aagot Halvorsdatter Hafsten 1699-1771 married Ole Kittelsen Miellands 1703-?
Aagot Halvorsdatter Hafsten 1699-1771 parents are: Halvor Andersen Hafsten/ Kaali 1656-1745 and Ingrid Torkildsdotter Haave 1658-1699
Halvor Andersen Hafsten/ Kaali 1656-1745 parents are Anders Thorstensen Kaali and Tore Gregarsdatter Ryen/Rygi
Then the same parents Anders Thorstensen Kaali and Tore Gregarsdatter Ryen/Rygi have son Halvor Andersen (Aagot’s father?) married Aslaug Gunleksdatter? , 4 sons and a daughter was Anders Thorstensen and Thore Gregarsdatter oldest son, (Aagot’s father?) a namesake to Aagots father Halvor Andersen Hafsten 1656-1745.????
The family tree didn’t help my confusion.
Can you help me understand?
I’m sorry I am being a bad student!
Jodie
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/08/2010 : 19:51:42
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Hi Jodie.
I have been a student all my life, hopefully learning something new every day.
I will organize the names one by one for you later tonight or tomorrow.
With so many names similar to each other its easy to get lost.
I had some problems to navigate in the familytree at first, its very good with references.
The persons behind a persons name (to click on) is the parents, grandparents etc.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2010 : 23:34:56
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You put up the correct family line Jodie.
It was a son (Halvor) that made the confusion.
Aagot Halvorsdatter Hafsten1699- 1771 (Ole Kittelsen Miellands wife)
Aagot´s parents were;
Halvor Andersen Hafsten/Kaali 1656-1745 and Ingrid Torkelsdatter Haave 1659-1699.
Halvor Andersen Hafstens parents;
Anders Thorstensen Kaali d. 1694 and Thore Gregarsdatter Ryen b.1630.
Thore Gregarsdatter Ryen´s parents;
Gregar Halvorsen Ryen 1605-1671 and Gunne Halvorsdatter, she lived 1688
Hope this make more sence.
The Ryen family is described in Hitterdalsboken Page 148-154, a very exiting family
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Edited by - Kåarto on 05/08/2010 23:38:10 |
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Kittl Olson Bakka born 1819
