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MAJA520S
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Posted - 24/08/2010 :  14:15:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
I found Knud Halvorsen and Guri Knudsdatter in the 1801 census in Espeseth. Can someone tell me what it would mean under remarks ("espeseth - 2detbrug") ?

Thanks, Jodie
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 24/08/2010 :  14:50:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"espeseth - 2detbrug" = espeseth - second farm - (most likely Espeseth vestre = Espeseth western part.

Einar
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 24/08/2010 :  15:01:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank-you, for explaining.

I was looking at the Dis-Norge Tinn, 1757-1810, skannet ministerialbok for a birth record of Knud Halvorsen.
LDS list his b: at abt 1758.
The 1801 Census has his b: date abt 1755. I didn't see the years available in the Dis-Norge for 1755-1756. Any sugestion on where to look?

Thanks, Jodie
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 24/08/2010 :  16:41:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No indication of Knuts age when they married July 4 1791, see #7.
No indication when their first child Anne was baptized 3rd sunday in Lent 1792 either, see #10.
One would think that they both came from Tinn, Hovind subparish.
One Knud Halvorsen, Sanden 17 years old was confirmated 1772 in Hoven, indicate birth in 1755? - no parish records available for Tinn 1755 and no info given for the missing books. see #1 1772.

Halvor Knudsen, Sand baptized his son Knud June 1 1755 in Hjartdal, see 12th record on left page. Since no Sand or Sanden farm can be found in Hjartdal it is reasonable to think this one is your Knut Halvorsen (1755).

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 24/08/2010 16:56:29
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 25/08/2010 :  05:44:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was looking for the birth record of Guri Knutsdatter Espeset b: abt 1769
I don't know how to add a link to this page. But in the Tinn, 1757-1810, skannet ministerialbok at the following website
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061211340004.jpg
year 1770 #49 left page top
Can anyone tell me how I would know these are the right parents for the Guri I seek?
Also can someone translate what it says?

Thanks, Jodie
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 25/08/2010 :  05:47:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I guess I do know how to add the link
Thanks
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 26/08/2010 :  14:53:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi thank-you eibache
For the info on Knut!
Can you tell me where the Sanden farm might be? Do different areas(Counties and Parishes) have the same farm names within them?

I was trying to find birth info on his wife Guri on my own. I may have found it above but not sure. Can you help?

Thanks, Jodie
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 26/08/2010 :  17:25:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
I looked into the book "Tinnsoga" Jodie, I remembered wrong, no info exist on neither Knud Halvorsen and Gurine Knudsdatter Espeseth.

Knud is mentioed born 1754 and 1759, Gurine 1768, they bought Espeset 1791, the same year they married.

Found some interesting info on Kitil Olsen bakka b. 1810 (page 4 in the other Topic), see here he married Gunnild Thoresdatter Sauro in 1838 (coming later)

Kċre


Edited by - Kċarto on 26/08/2010 19:01:50
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MAJA520S
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Posted - 26/08/2010 :  17:42:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank-you, Kċre, I will look forward to the information on Kitil Olsen Bakka!!
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Kċarto
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Posted - 26/08/2010 :  19:47:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To make a living on Espseth was difficult so Kittil and Gunnilld moved to Sauro where Gunnild was born (Northern Sauro)
They got 10 children:
- Ingebjĝrg 1839
- Thore 1840
- Ole 1843
- Gunleik 1845
- Nils 1847
- Anne 1850
- Aslaug 1855 died young
- Kittil 1855
- Gunild 1855
- Ĝystein 1857

With so many children to feed Kittil was forced to borrow money, about 1861 his debt was more than 800 Daler, he was forced to sell Sauro on auction 1862, all that was left was less than 50 Daler.

The whole family emigrated to USA.
The emigration records for Hovind/Gransherad has only the 1861 emigrants recorded, so what year they left we do not know.

It must be a hugh number of people from the Bakka/Espeset/Nordstokke families living in the US today.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 26/08/2010 19:58:13
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Kċarto
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Posted - 26/08/2010 :  20:11:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
You asked about Sanden, its a farm in Hovin.

Kċre
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larsoyane
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Germany
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Posted - 04/03/2015 :  13:14:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have studied this topic today, since I am searching the same family!

If I understand correctly, Jens Canuteson aka Jens Knutson, born Dec. 28, 1815 in Avaldsnes Co., Norway, emigrated in 1840 and was married about 1843 to one Margretha Johnson, who, according to her tombstone in the Norway cemetery in LaSalle Co., IL, was born in Norway Feb.11, 1822 and whom I suspect be identical to Margretha Jonasdotter, born in Fister, Hjelmeland Co., Norway Jan. 30, 1821 and christened Feb. 11, 1821. Her parents were Jonas Erikson Halsnoy and Martha Bjornsdotter, but this has to be verified! I can find no emigration record for her!

I notice that Jens and Margretha's two oldest children were:

* Guro "Julia" Canuteson, born in LaSalle Co., IL Apr. 9, 1844

* Ole Canuteson, born in La Salle Co., IL Jan. 4, 1847

While you apparently follow Julia, Mrs. Ole Baker, I am interested in Ole. He was married in LaSalle Co., IL July 18, 1878 to the widow Anna Brewick Irgens, born in LaSalle Co., IL 1851 or 1852. They farmed in Rutland township, LaSalle Co., IL where Anna died Dec. 28, 1883. Then my problem is:

* What happened to Ole Canuteson (or Knutson?) AFTER 1883?

Anyone knows?

Thanks a million in advance!

Very sincerely yours,

Lars E. Oyane
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jkmarler
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Posted - 04/03/2015 :  15:44:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Welcome to forum, Lars! What took you so long?
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larsoyane
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Germany
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Posted - 04/03/2015 :  16:05:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Jackie!

Thanks for the greetings!

It was a pure coincidence that I came into the forum today since I am working on this particular family.

As you know, there are so many forums out there to discuss genealogical matters. I call it a "jungle". I am quite active on the Norwegian digital archives as well as on the NORWAY Rootsweb list, but maybe NORWAY-HERITAGE can offer more possibilities? Maybe I should try a couple of real "brick-walls"?

Very sincerely yours,

Lars E. Oyane
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 04/03/2015 :  18:11:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Lars, welcome. To add some more reminders re Ole, marriage record as transcribed on illinois cyberdrive website has
Ole KNUTSON marries Anna G Irgens 18 July 1878 in La Salle county.

1880 census Rutledge, La Salle, Illinois (previously posted, I think)
Ole CANUTSON 33
Anna Canutson 28
Fredricka Irgins 4, stepdaughter


So, as you seem to indicate, surname appears in at least two ways. Have you tried writing Norway Cemetery, where Ole's mother is buried?

--Jane

Edited by - JaneC on 04/03/2015 18:31:01
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