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kpeterson
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 Posted - 11/08/2010 : 12:05:42
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Hello everyone,
I am looking for the mother of my g-g-grandfather, Anders Pedersen Berge from Voss, Hordaland; after the birth of her son Anders, I lose track of her. I am hoping that someone can help me find information on her life after 1819.
Here is some background information:
Her name was Torbiør Kolbensdatter, and if I am correct she was born 7 Nov 1777 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070104610254.jpg Her parents were Kolben Pedersen Hommedal and Brita Larsdatter Lodveteig or Lødveteyen. It appears that Torbiør was illegitimate if I read the birth entry correctly.
Peder (Per) Andersen was born in December (not sure of the date) and christened on 21 Dec 1791 in Voss. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070524630224.jpg
the son of Anders Knudsen Berge and Ragnhilde Andersdtr. Vaethe.
Anders Knudsen Berge dies in 1806 and leaves his son Per the farm and as he had no brothers I assume that whatever property Anders had, he left to this son. How and when Peder Andersen met Torbiør Kolbensdatter is unknown.
Torbiør and Peder have a child, Anders Pedersen Berge http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070524630631.jpg born out of wedlock, and one of the witnesses may or may not have been Torbiør’s father (shown as Colbein Berge). Peder marries two years later in 1721 and has 5 children.
It is at the birth of Anders in 1819 that his mother Torbiør disappears from the records: I have not (yet) found any marriage for her, immigration (internal or external), or death records either. If someone could take a look at the information above and perhaps find some link to her life after this, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance!
Kathy#8232;
[Just an extra note: After the rather irregular and inauspicious beginning to his life, the first Anders Pedersen Berge leaves Norway in spring of 1844 to become one of the first Norwegian settlers in the Wisconsin territory. He probably did not regret the move to change his life: he was a successful farmer owning enough property that he was able to give three of his sons each a farm of 160 acres, and died at the age of 78.] |
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eibache
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Posted - 11/08/2010 : 13:59:57
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Nov 7 is Torbiørs baptismal date, otherwise your reading of the baptismal record is correct.
The date for Peder Andersen is also the baptismal date (Fest 1 Nativitas Christi = Christmas day Dec 25.)
The baptismal record for Anders, born March 1 1819, is #24 .
The godparent Colben Berge does not seem to be Torbiørs father, she was born 1777, was approx 42 years when Anders was born and the only Colben Pedersen in Voss 1801 was 29 years old. Torbiør father was most likely dead.
In 1801 Torbiør was a servant at Himle Øvre.
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Edited by - eibache on 11/08/2010 15:11:00 |
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kpeterson
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Posted - 11/08/2010 : 18:37:08
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Thank you Einar for confirming the information and also the additional information about Himle Øvre. Looking at Colben Berge, I now see that he could not be the father, which also helps in another direction.
Do you think there might be other information about her? At first I thought I might have missed something with Anders birth in that she may have died not long after he was born, but so far nothing has turned up. I also did not find any sort of public absolution for either her or Anders (unless it just was not recorded). So far I have found no marriage, no death, no internal or external immigration -- she just sort of fades out of any records.
Thanks for answering my questions! Have a good evening
Kathy
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eibache
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Posted - 11/08/2010 : 19:43:23
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Anders was confirmated 1834, see #52.
I see Peder and his wife Martha at Jorene in 1865.
When Anders left to " Søge Lykken i NordAmerika" it seems he was leaving from Berge, see #126 where his father then was a married man.
Have had no luck in searches for Torbiør. Not uncommon that an unmarried mother "disappears".
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Edited by - eibache on 11/08/2010 20:46:03 |
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kpeterson
Junior member
Italy
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Posted - 11/08/2010 : 20:36:39
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Thank you so much for the link to the "Søge Lykken i NordAmerika" !! I have never seen this link in arkivverket and it was really something to see all the people who did leave on that particular date.
I have another question: His father named one of his legitimate sons also with the same name as Anders -- to me this seems unusual and perhaps not very nice, almost as if the first Anders did not count at all. Was this common practice? Anders number 2 was born in 1825, therefore there were only 6 years between them. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070524640123.jpg
Thank you for all your help!
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eibache
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Posted - 11/08/2010 : 21:01:57
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Baptismal record for his legitimate Anders is #118.
Anders must have been an important name in this family. It was not uncommon to name more than one child with such an important name. They distinguished between such children by calling the youngest one "lille - ".
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looking for Torbiør Kolbensdatter in Hordaland
