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ShellaCarlson
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Canada
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Posted - 21/08/2010 :  21:59:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am somewhat new to geneology research, and I'm not sure where to begin, so I'm hoping someone here might help me.

I am looking for information on the family/parentage of:

Engebret CARLSON
Born April 17 1870 in Tolgen, Nordre Osterdalin, Norway.
Came to America about 1892.
Married to Inger Kristin Nyland in 1912.
Eventually settled in Saskatchewan, Canada in about 1918.
Died 1934 Saskatchewan, Canada.

I do not have a lot of information about his family, other than the following note written on some old family papers. It reads: "Ingebret Carlson (Braten) - Ingebret Karlsen Kotmo f.14.4.1870 pa Kotmoen Bopel Erlien. Konfirmert 1886. Utvandret til Amerika 1892. Foreldre: Karl Enersen, svensk arbeider. Gisken Tollefsdtr."

I would be very happy for any assistance.

eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 21/08/2010 :  22:36:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The baptismal record for Engebret Carlson is #23.
He was born out of wedlock April 17 and baptized Embret (=Engebret) on April 28 in Tolga church.
His mother Gidsken Tellefsdatter was at the time at the Braaten farm. His fathers name was Carl, surname possibly Eriksen and coming from Värmland in Sweden.
In a note is stated that this was the mothers 4th birth out of wedlock, which was reported to the bailiff.
When Engebret Karlsen (=Carlsen) was confirmated he was living at Erlien, see #11. The info about his birthplace says Kotmoen.
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 21/08/2010 23:25:29
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Geir Dybvig
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Norway
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Posted - 21/08/2010 :  22:45:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The link below is to the DigitalArchives in Norway.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html

The link below is to the page in the parish record for Tolga in Østerdal. Engebret is nr. 23, the bottum one.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8907&idx_id=8907&uid=ny&idx_side=-108

His name was Embret, born april 17 1870 , bapt. april 28.
The parents was not married. His father had 3 children already at this time.
Gidsken Tollefsdatter was the mother andshe lived on a place caled Bakken. The father was Carl Eriksen and he seems to be from Värmland in Sweden.

In cencus 1865 Tolgen: there are Gidsken Tollefsdatter 27 years old living on Røseplads, Grinden øvre . She is born in Tolga, unmarried, and have a doughter Gea Poulsdatter 2 years old
On the same place lives Tollef Ingebretsen 74 years old born in Rendalen and his wife Gidken !! Olsdatter 61 years born in Tolga.They are her parents, the link below tells this.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9227&idx_id=9227&uid=ny&idx_side=-9

She is nr. 58, born April 30. 1838.



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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 21/08/2010 :  23:01:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see no info about Engebrets father having other children, his mother had Gea, born out of wedlock May 24 1864, see #42, she was 25 years at that time and living at the Braaten farm.
Engebrets half brother Simen was born out of wedlock May 23 1867, see #39.
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 21/08/2010 23:15:03
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 22/08/2010 :  00:24:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Engebret Carlsons mother Gidsken Tollefsdatter was born Aug 30 (not April 30) 1838 at Godalen.
Gidskens father Tollef Ingebretsen was a tailor.
Tollef Ingebretsen was born in Rendalen 1792 and baptized June 3, see #23. His parents were Ingebret Evendsen, Findstad and Maren Simensdatter.
Tollef, his parents and his sister Sigri in 1801.
Einar
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ShellaCarlson
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Posted - 22/08/2010 :  00:40:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you sharing this information!! Thank you thank you very much.
I also appreciate the links, however as I do not read (or speak) Norwegian, I'm afraid they don't make much sense to me.
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 22/08/2010 :  01:50:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm

Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html

If you expect to research more Norwegian ancestors you want to learn where to find the word translations.
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 22/08/2010 :  01:53:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Study of good basic advice will also be of great help -
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html

There is a good collection of links available near the top of this webpage well worth your time to study.
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