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loriferris
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 Posted - 24/08/2010 : 01:47:00
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| Hi. I'm searching for information regarding my grandfather John Oskar Seyffarth. He came to the US in 1921. He was the youngest of Oluf and Mathilde Seyffarth from Hille, Mandal, Norway. |
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Hopkins
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/08/2010 : 02:56:36
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According to the record listed in Ancestry.com he came to the US in 1922. Is this the right person. Mother is listed as Mathilde Seyffarth Hildo, Halse, Mandal. Going to Staten Island, NY.
Name: John Oskar Seyffarth
Arrival Date: 9 May 1922
Birth Year: abt 1903
Birth Location: Nrw
Birth Location Other: halse
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Kristiania, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Stavangerfjord
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/08/2010 : 03:00:29
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The Social Security Death Index lists what seems to be the same John Seyffarth. With a birth date of 29 June 1902. From Ancestry.com but available on other sites. For example RootsWeb
Name: John Seyffarth
SSN: 085-05-0683 .
Last Residence: 10302 Staten Island, Richmond, New York, United States of America
Born: 29 Jun 1902
Died: 21 Feb 1988
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951
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Edited by - AntonH on 24/08/2010 03:17:53 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/08/2010 : 03:13:57
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If we have the right person this would be his birth record. Click on.
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Edited by - AntonH on 24/08/2010 04:17:57 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/08/2010 : 05:04:15
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While John (Jon Oscar) was not born until 1902 the family does appear in the 1900 Norwegian Census. Click on
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/08/2010 : 07:35:40
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Jon Oscars parents, Oluf Olsen Seiffart and Gurine Mathilde Johnsdatter, were married Febr 15 1884, see #11.
Jon Oscars oldest brother emigrated in 1903
and his sister Gulovna in 1925. She had also been in US 1921
Jon Oscars emigration record in
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eibache
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Posted - 24/08/2010 : 07:48:34
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Jon Oscars father Oluf was born May 25 1859, see #76 his parents were Carl Christian Olsen and Christine Mathea Christoffersdatter.
The family in 1865.
Jon Oscars mother Gurine Mathilde was born Nov 16 1861, see #191 her parents were John Haagensen and Oline Gurine Bentsdatter, Hildø.
The family in 1865.
Parish records for Jon Oscars grandfather, Carl Christian Olsen, is lost. His brother born 1833 is #37. Their father was sailor Ole Andersen and the mother Dorthea Elisabeth née Seiffarth, Mandal.
Carl Frederich Christian Olsen and Christine Mathea Christoffersdatter were married Nov 18 1858, see #25.
Carl Frederich Christian was 28 years old and came from Mandal. Christine Mathea was 28 years old and came from Spangereid.
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hasto
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Posted - 24/08/2010 : 17:38:35
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In my records I have Jon Haagensen Hille and Oline Gurine Bentsdatter.
Carl Christian Olsen's record is not lost, but well hidden. He was born 17. Dec 1830 and baptized 1. Jan 1831 as Frederick Christian.
There is a little explanation in the confirmation record. Kaldes alminnelig (usually called) Carl Christian. I guess his parents had changed their minds about what his name should be. |
Harald S Storaker
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Edited by - hasto on 24/08/2010 18:25:19 |
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eibache
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Posted - 24/08/2010 : 18:04:52
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Harald,
Take a look at your links, I can't get the info you suggest they should bring up.
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In my records I have Jon Haagensen Hille and Oline Gurine Bentsdatter.
- as in my posting for Jon Oscars mother Gurine Mathilde.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 24/08/2010 18:07:01 |
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hasto
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Posted - 24/08/2010 : 18:45:05
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You are right. Strange things happens to the links when you look at several church books at the same time.
I think I have fixed them now. - But my GeneaNet links seems not to work out -
I also have the parents of (Fredrik) Carl Christian in my records Ole Andersen Frostestad and Gurine Olsdatter Hoven
They are gg-grandparents of my wife. They are listed on page 57 in the book "Ole Torjesen Hovens slekt" issued Mandal 1954. All descendants should be there. But the genealogist making the book did not find Fredrik/Carl Christian, so that branch is not in the book.
Ole Andersen Frostestad in 1801 census. Ole Andersen was a miller, but his father Anders Olsen was a "hegler". A so ancient occupation that my dictionary have not got it. He was making ropes of hempen. |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
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eibache
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Posted - 24/08/2010 : 20:29:41
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I also have the parents of (Fredrik) Carl Christian in my records Ole Andersen Frostestad and Gurine Olsdatter Hoven
- I thought Ole Andersen was married to Dorthea Elisabeth Seyffarth.
Ole Andersens parents, Anders Olsen, Førøe and Aasløv Larsdatter, Mandahl were engaged Aug 20 1795, see 2nd couple on right page.
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loriferris
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Posted - 25/08/2010 : 01:04:48
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Originally posted by lyndal40
According to the record listed in Ancestry.com he came to the US in 1922. Is this the right person. Mother is listed as Mathilde Seyffarth Hildo, Halse, Mandal. Going to Staten Island, NY.
Name: John Oskar Seyffarth
Arrival Date: 9 May 1922
Birth Year: abt 1903
Birth Location: Nrw
Birth Location Other: halse
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Kristiania, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Stavangerfjord
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loriferris
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Posted - 25/08/2010 : 01:07:07
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Originally posted by lyndal40
According to the record listed in Ancestry.com he came to the US in 1922. Is this the right person. Mother is listed as Mathilde Seyffarth Hildo, Halse, Mandal. Going to Staten Island, NY.
Name: John Oskar Seyffarth
Arrival Date: 9 May 1922
Birth Year: abt 1903
Birth Location: Nrw
Birth Location Other: halse
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Kristiania, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Stavangerfjord
Yes this is my grandfather! Thank you. |
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loriferris
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Posted - 25/08/2010 : 01:19:50
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Thanks to everyone!!
My grandfather John Oskar Seyffarth supposedly had 13 brothers and sisters. How can I find out their names and date of births and deaths? |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/08/2010 : 13:10:54
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You would go through the Birth/Baptisms section of appropriate parish church records and look for them.
The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005.
The Digitalarkivet web site - http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].
Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
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Deaths would be an entirely different matter because you have no information on where or approximately when each of them died. Did any of them emigrate or move from the area? Without knowing those things looking for deaths is a BIG PROJECT. Good luck.
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