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                 kpeterson 
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                       Posted - 12/09/2010 :  18:11:25
                        
                        
                      
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                       Hello all, I need a bit of help deciphering a name on a birth record that is confounding me.
  The record is for 5 April 1708 in Bamble, Telemark, (the second record for that month.)   http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061201010059.jpg
  the father's name is Soren but I cannot make out the rest (Sorte? Boen...?); the child's name is Christen (at least I hope this is the record :  I am trying to find the birth record for "Christen Sorensen")
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                 jwiborg 
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                       Posted - 12/09/2010 :  20:41:36
                        
                        
                      
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                       Yes, it looks like it says Søren Sorte Bouens søn Christen.
  Sortebougen is a farmname in Bamble in census-1801, so I guess that where Søren is from.
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                 eibache 
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                       Posted - 12/09/2010 :  20:59:00
                        
                        
                      
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                       It is a baptismal record for Christen Sørensen and the father is Søren Sorte Bowen. (= Sortebougen Strand Plads as Jan Peter points out) All bapt records give the farm/place where the father (and the family) lives.
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                       Edited by - eibache on 12/09/2010  21:07:31 | 
                     
                    
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                 kpeterson 
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                       Posted - 12/09/2010 :  23:30:02
                        
                        
                      
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                       Thank you, both of you!  That was going to be my next question:  finding out exactly where Søren was from and if that was a farm. This was one of my missing links and an interesting discovery for me!
  I do have another question:  although I have never found it online, I am wondering if there are scanned copies of farms in Bamble online that I have missed.  Do any exist?  Questions about farms in certain areas of Telemark are beginning to mount up for me, and I think that Sortebougen is another one added to the list! 
 
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                 kpeterson 
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                       Posted - 12/09/2010 :  23:47:49
                        
                        
                      
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                       I just found this Probate record for the very same Christen Sørensen and have a question.  Christen died in 1748 and probate was granted giving his wife and children the inheritance including the land (heri medregnet jord) but I am confused about what precedes thi "Brt. 115 - 0 - 6 4/49 Net. 7 - 2 - 17".  Is this the location of the property/farm?
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                 jwiborg 
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                       Posted - 13/09/2010 :  00:03:39
                        
                        
                      
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                        The "Brt. 115 - 0 - 6 4/49, Net. 7 - 2 - 17" is a figure for the property's value in old Norwegian currency. Brt = gross value, net = Net value. The net value of the estate is the estate's total value substracted any debt and the probate expenses. No gps coordinates...  
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                 kpeterson 
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                       Posted - 13/09/2010 :  00:31:30
                        
                        
                      
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                       Aha! Thank you! | 
                     
                    
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