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bjornpa
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 Posted - 10/11/2010 : 09:52:24
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Hi
I am looking for information regarding Jonetta Jørgensdatter, born on August 2, 1833 in Troms (Sortevik in Dyrøy), Norway. She emigrated with the ship Tønsberg from Trondheim to Quebec in 1867 and here all traces of her disappear. Family rumors says it that she was going to her sister Ane Margrethe in the US, but I am not sure about that. Any help would be very appreciated.
Regards Bjørn Arntzen |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 10/11/2010 : 22:49:49
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| Do you happen to know where Ane Margrethe lived around the time that Jonetta would have immigrated. |
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bjornpa
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Norway
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Posted - 11/11/2010 : 10:19:04
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Jonetta had an older sister, Ane or Anna Margrethe Jørgensdatter born june 16, 1825, Troms, Norway. Unknown when she emigrated to the US.
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Edited by - bjornpa on 11/11/2010 23:54:48 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2010 : 23:36:36
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She emigrated with the ship Tønsberg from Trondheim to Quebec in 1867
Do you have a reference to the above information where we might be able to find the names of other passengers that left about the same time as Jonetta. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/11/2010 : 23:48:05
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TONSBURG
Departure Trondhjem, Norway - 1867-05-25. See "Emigranter fra Trondheim"
Arrival: Quebec, Que. - 1867-07-06
Jonetta Jörgensdatter (30), destination Quebec is the only info on the manifest.
Anders Christensen (30) and wife Randi Sevaldsdatter (31) are listed just above her. They can be found in Tumuli, Ottertail, Minnesota in 1880.
The most likely destination for her emigration would be Minnesota, with Wisconsin as a second guess. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 13/11/2010 00:05:13 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 02:34:20
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Yes, here is Anders Christensen along with wife Randi Salvesdatter. From Ancestry.com
Name: Anders Christensen
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Date of Arrival: 1867
Vessel: Protector
Search Ship Database: View the 'Protector' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Roll: C-4522
Well Jan Peter if you got your info from Ancestry.com I may just have repeated your info again. If so Sorry. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 02:40:32
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Just below Anders and Randi in the ships manifest is this lady. I think we can assume that with allowances for spelling issues this is Jonetta Jørgensdatter. No other useful information is given in the original manifest.. From Ancestry.com
Name: Joneth Forgensdatter
Gender: Female
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Date of Arrival: 1867
Vessel: Protector
Search Ship Database: View the 'Protector' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Roll: C-4522
Same caveat as above. Sorry Jan Peter, I may have to read your posts a little more carefully.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 03:28:29
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The Minnesota Territorial Census does show Anders and his wife in Otter Tail County as early as 1875. Again from Ancestry.com
Name: Anders Christenson
Census Date: 1 May 1875
County: Otter Tail
Locality: Trondhjem
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Race: White
Father's Birth Location: Norway
Mother's Birth Location: Norway
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 03:32:12
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A canidate from Otter Tail County from the 1875 Minnesota State and Territorial Census is this person. The birth year is not 1833 but I noticed that the birth year from the ships manifest posted earlier would actually calculate to abt 1837.
Name: Jonata Johnson
Census Date: 1 May 1875
County: Otter Tail
Locality: Rush Lake
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Race: White
Father's Birth Location: Norway
Mother's Birth Location: Norway
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 03:35:02
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Here is the same person in 1905 for the Minnesota State and Territorial Census from Ancestry.com. Again the birth year is off..
Name: Jonetta Johnsen
Census Date: 8 Jun 1905
County: Otter Tail
Locality: St Olaf
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Race: White
Father's Birth Location: Norway
Mother's Birth Location: Norway
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 03:39:42
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This is likely the Jonetta mentioned above in the two Minnesota State and Territorial Census, now found in the 1900 US Census from Ancestry.com. Note that the birth date and year on not very close. The immigration year is off by one and it shows that she was married in 1862 which would indicate that this Jonetta was married before she immigrated. May not be a good fit afterall. However the name Jonetta is not very common.
Name: Joneta Johnson
[Jonete Johnson]
Home in 1900: Saint Olaf, Otter Tail, Minnesota
Age: 61
Birth Date: Nov 1838
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1866
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 6
Mother: How many children: 11
Spouse's name: Nels Johnson
Marriage Year: 1862
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 38
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nels Johnson 66
Joneta Johnson 61
Micael Johnson 28
Isabella Johnson 29
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 05:02:22
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Going back to 1880 and 1870 US Census from Ancestry.com this Jonetta does not seem to be very good candidate since in both census shows two of the children born in Norway.
Name: Joneta Johnson
Home in 1880: Saint Olaf, Otter Tail, Minnesota
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Birthplace: Nor
Relation to head-of-household: Wife
Spouse's name: Nils Johnson
Father's birthplace: Nor
Mother's birthplace: Nor
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Keeping House
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Household Members: Name Age
Nils Johnson 47
Joneta Johnson 42
Anne Johnson 18
Johan Johnson 16
Esten Johnson 12
Ole Johnson 10
Ingebor Johnson 9
Mekal Johnson 8
Andria Johnson 3
Johan Johnson 5m
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bjornpa
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Norway
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Posted - 15/11/2010 : 11:27:30
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| Yes, it seems that this Jonetta must be wrong since she already was married in 1862 and also had two children before Jonetta Jørgensdatter left Norway. In the 1865 Census for Norway, Jonetta J. was at the age of 30, so she was born in 1833 or 1835. But thanks a lot for all your effort. |
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Jonetta Jørgensdatter from Troms in Norway
