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Patricia Godbout
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Canada
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 Posted - 04/01/2011 : 22:23:42
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| I'm looking for information about my great-grandfather on my mother's side, who was Norwegian. Born (in Quebec or abroad?) in 1851. Orphaned and adopted by a French-Canadian family. His name in Quebec : Pierre-Jean Savoie. His "real" name that I heard mentioned was Sadler (could Jo-Ann Sadler tell me if her name is of Norwegian extraction?). How should I go about finding more info about him? I read that there was a failed attempt at establishing a Norwegian settlement at Gaspé around 1860. Where could I find more info about that? I'll be spending one month in Oslo in March as a visiting professor and would have liked to take that opportunity to find out more about my Norwegian roots. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/01/2011 : 23:40:07
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In the book about the Norwegian farmer and journalist Johan Schrĝder´s 1863 travel to Canada the Norwegian settlement in Gaspe 1860 is mentioned, see here
Parts of the book is online, Google Books, it was a huge and to great a link to post here, search Google and;
"Johan Schroder travels"
and read the first 28 pages of total 173, perhaps some of the information can be useful for you.
Perhaps a shot in the dark;
French Pierre must be Per /Peer in Norway and Jean must be the same as Johan/John/Jon;
Per-Johan.
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2011 : 11:17:03
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Norwegian farm names starts with Sad.... Sadd... in the Norwegian 1865 census.
All the farm I mention has to do with the English saddle consisted of 93 recidents in dif. municipalities.
Saddelmageren (Saddelmaker)
Saddelmagerengen (Saddlemakerplot)
Saddelmagerstuen (Saddlemakercabin)
Sadelmagerbakken (Saddlemakerslope)
Sadelmagerhaug (Saddlemakerheap)
Sadelamgerbraaten
Sadelmagerhaugen
Sadelamgerplads
Sadelmagerstua
Sadelmagerstuen
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Patricia Godbout
New on board
Canada
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Posted - 05/01/2011 : 22:01:51
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Thank you for these replies! This gives me places to start. Will investigate further and probably come back with new and (hopefully) more precise queries! |
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gaspe
New on board
Canada
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 02:00:25
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Hi
I live in Gaspé, Quebec and within 10 miles of the old Norwegian Settlement. The area in which we live has actually been primarily been settled by peoples of English origin. Many French names can be found in the Gaspé, however, Savoie is not not of them. I have not found a lot of information other than what one may find by searching "norwegian settlement Gaspé" on google. I have an article written by David MacDougal which gives a bit of insight beyond the historical. |
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Patricia Godbout
New on board
Canada
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Posted - 12/01/2011 : 17:25:11
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Where exactly would that old Norwegian settlement be in Gaspé? And do you know any family names of Norwegian origin that would still be in the area? (Brun, for example). I would also like to have the reference to this article by MacDougal you are referring to. I found out that my great-grandfather Savoie is included in the 1861 census. Said to be 8 years old then. |
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susihaines
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2012 : 05:51:30
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| I am a descendant of the Brandt and Brun family that was a part of the Gaspe settlement. I was recently in Gaspe. We found the land, 92 acres, that was bought by Ludvig Brant. It was about 3 miles inland. The nearby town (collection of houses) was called Coin du Banc. The Malbaie River ran through the land. It was a very thick forest and no one lives on the land today. It would be an awful place to live! The coast is quite nice however. We spoke to every one we could and no one remembered anything about any Norwegians. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 07/09/2012 : 15:09:09
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The Norwegian Brun family?
Origon of the familyname Brun in Norway were three separate families:
Sire.
-1 Brun family from Vċgċ in Gudbrandsdalen where the pronunciation of Broen (Bridge) is Brun
-2 Mathias Brun who lived in Trondheim ca 1650 (The priest family Brun)
-3 Peter Brun d. 1679, Lt. colonel in Kristiansand (The military family Brun)
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susihaines
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2012 : 15:45:12
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| The military Brun family. Elen Borchman Brun, mother of the Brandt brothers (and sisters) that went to Gaspe, was the daughter of Peter Godske Brun, who's father was Christian Brun, who's father was Frantz Brun. Elen Brun's sister, Karen, also went to Gaspe with her husband and son, Nils Christian Brun (Nilsen). |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2012 : 17:12:25
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Same family.
One of my ancestor´s, Inger Dorthea Peterdatter Brun ca 1656-1752, daughter to Lt. colonel and commander at Kristansand fortress Peter Brun and Lisbeth Nicolaisdatter Worm from his 2. marriage.
Main source: National Archivist H.J.Huitfeldt-Kaas.
Perhaps you already know?
I believe your Frantz (Olsen) Brun was descendant after L.Colonel and commander Peter Brun and his first wife Dorthea Larsdatter Gram´s son Ole Petersen Brun ca 1640-1710.
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susihaines
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2012 : 19:57:51
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| I think you are right about these Bruns. But I am a bit confused because they used the same names generation after generation! My Frantz Brun was married to Anna Karine Frost, daughter of Margrethe Angell and Christian Frost. Are you talking about Inger Dorthe Baroness Von Zemichow? |
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Lislcat
Advanced member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2012 : 21:53:10
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| Yes, he is descended from Inger Dorthea Von Zernichow. :-) |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2012 : 21:55:33
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Diff. naming practice in Norway.
Peters son was Petersen and Peters daughter became Petersdatter (-daughter).
Ole´s son became Olsen etc.
The Brun family used the same familyname, but some used the patronymic name as middelname.
Yes, Inger Dorthea (Petersdatter) Brun married Christian Diderich v. Zernichow between 1680-90, but she was not a baronesse.
His grandfather Diderich v. Z, milit. commander in Denmark, is mentioned as Baron and "Friherree" (Diplomatic messenger).
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2012 : 22:36:47
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Peter Brun and Dorthea Larsdatter Gram
Ole (Petersen) Brun and Maren Lund
Frantz (Olsen) Brun and Anne Catarina Frost
Christian (Frantzen) Brun and Karen Gĝttsche etc, etc.
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