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Jedierica
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 Posted - 05/01/2011 : 05:24:08
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I am looking for the parents of my great grandfather's parents.
Hans Christiansen born 1779 and died 1859 and Kari Pedersdatter ( 1786-1868)
their son Ole Christian Hansen was confirmed October, 4, 1835 Gaarsrud, Jevnaker Church. I am not sure if the parents are also from that area or not. I was wondering when they got married and if Ole had any siblings |
great grand daughter of the Hanson (Hansen) and Loken families of Western Wisconsin |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/01/2011 : 06:59:02
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Ole Christian was born Jan 6 1820 and baptized in Jevnaker church Jan 16, see #9, he had a twin sister Mari, see #14.
The father and his parents in 1801 and most likely the mother, her parents and siblings in 1801.
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Edited by - eibache on 05/01/2011 09:49:39 |
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Jedierica
Junior member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2011 : 08:21:08
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I have a question as this is the key to finding out of any one stayed behind. Did Ole Christian Hansen's twin sister Mari stay behind in Norway or find her away across he ocean as well.
I am looking at your post in the blue above.
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great grand daughter of the Hanson (Hansen) and Loken families of Western Wisconsin |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2011 : 14:56:10
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Erica, That would not be a simple question to answer but it might make an excellent query for you to use to practice doing this research yourself. Consider --
1. Did Mari Hansdtr survive to adulthood?
2. What available records and documentation of life events might specify a suspect Mari Handstr's parentage, thereby avoiding confusing with any other nearby Mari Hansdtr named females of the approximate same age?
You could probably answer your question by using the databases and scanned parish records available at the Digitalarkivet website.
1. Did Mari Hansdtr survive to adulthood?
Unknown... Death records for Jevnaker from the date of birth to the early 1900s are available and could be studied for a possible death record. That would probably be a long and tedious procedure through many years of records and hopefully a better option could be found.
2. What surviving records and documentation of life events might specify a suspect Mari Handstr's parentage, thereby avoiding confusing with any other nearby Mari Hansdtr named females of the approximate same age?
- A church confirmation record MIGHT list the young person's father and/or mother. Church confirmation was typical for young people between the ages of about 14 to 19... that would mean reading through those records for the time period of about 1834-1840. No known database extraction of Jevnaker confirmation records is currently available. Going through handwritten records would be only option.
- The 1865 and/or 1875 census MIGHT show Mari Hansdtr, if living, and should reflect an age of about 45/55 and birthplace of Jevnaker but would not show parentage unless still living in the same household as any surviving parent. 1865 and 1875 censuses for Jevnaker in electronic database form can be checked at the Digitalarkivet or NHDC websites.
- A marriage record of the time period almost always listed the father. The Digitalarkivet website indicates 5 databases for marriages in Jevnaker between the years of 1837-1906.
- A death record usually only mentioned the father of the subject if they were a child still living at home. See #1 above.
- The church books usually contained a section for registering those persons "leaving the parish" but the emigrant's father would only be mentioned if the person were a child. Such registration was NOT REQUIRED and some people/families emigrated without such notification of the parish officials.
My advice would be to 1st - check the 1865 and 1875 census databases to see if any likely Mari Hansdtrs of the right age group still reside in Jevnaker and 2nd to check the marriage records for any Mari Hansdtr of the right age at the time of the marriage event who lists the father already identified for your relative.
Learn to use the databases of the Digitalarkivet -
Tips on Using the Digitalarkivet
The church records of Jevnaker births/baptisms/confirmations/marriages/deaths are available online for years up to the early 1900s. The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005.
The Digitalarkivet web site - http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].
Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2011 : 15:02:30
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The confirmation record for Ole Christian Hansen, Gaarserudbakken is #11.
The confirmation record for Mari Hansdatter, Gaarserudeie is #1. Fathers name is given as Hans Christoffersen, this should obviously have been Christiansen. (No other Mari Handatter, Gaaserudeiet born Jan 6 and bapt. Jan 16 1820 found in the parish records.)
A Mari Hansdatter, born 1820, father Hans Christiansen were married to Anders Elensen Aug 9 1845, see #13. Most likely this is the twin sister Mari.
Anders Elensen and Mari Hansdatter with their children in 1865.
Same family in 1875.
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Edited by - eibache on 08/01/2011 15:30:04 |
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Jedierica
Junior member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2011 : 00:10:11
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Great I did not know how looking up the Archives in Norway works. I only know English but I have some Aunts and Uncles that still know the language from when they were kids. I also know that my mothers siblings have gone to Norway and visited relatives. I just need to make a call and find out who they visited .
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great grand daughter of the Hanson (Hansen) and Loken families of Western Wisconsin |
Edited by - Jedierica on 09/01/2011 03:12:24 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2011 : 02:50:22
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There are several very useful websites with lists of common Norwegian words found in genealogy research translated into English for you. Check for websites that can help you under Links at the upper right portion of this page.
Collect helpful websites in your 'Favorites' or 'Bookmarks' - you will turn to them again and again. Most of still do, quite thankfully.
The basic of basics is - http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html
Jevnaker and Gran are not too far north of the city/port of Oslo and are within the historic area called Hadeland.
There is a fairly active historical/genealogical American group called the Hadeland Lag. Their website is -
http://www.hadelandlag.org/
There is also the Kontaktforum Hadeland-America which consists of interested groups from both Hadeland and America. They are very interested in learning what happened to the emigrants who left their area and their descendants.
http://www.hadelandlag.org/kontaktforum.htm
Jump in and try to learn to use the resources and websites yourself. There is no excitement like being able to find it yourself! (I have been seen dancing and whooping and hollering with joy!) If you need advice or help - just ask and someone will probably be willing to take the time to teach you.
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Jedierica
Junior member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2011 : 22:00:09
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| This is very cool. Thank you so much. |
great grand daughter of the Hanson (Hansen) and Loken families of Western Wisconsin |
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Great, Great Grand Parents marriage ect
