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Karen Olsen
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Australia
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 Posted - 04/02/2011 : 10:37:19
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Hi,
please could someone translate this birth/baptism entry for me. It is the last one on the left hand side - Agnes Katrine Magdalene. I can make out the basics, like the names but it seems to be more interesting than the usual. Seems a quay is involved?? Agnes was my great uncle's wife and I am trying to find out more about her.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?show=74&uid=147937&urnread_imagesize=big&hode=nei&ls=1
Much obliged,
Karen. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/02/2011 : 10:59:54
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Your link does not work, could you give info on where the record is.
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Karen Olsen
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Posted - 04/02/2011 : 11:56:56
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Sorry about that. It worked in the preview.
The record is in the digitised parish records of the National Archives - Domkirken in Stavanger 1878-1889 page 117 (1882, born 1 July, baptised 10 July).
Apologies,
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/02/2011 : 15:11:23
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Agnes Kathrine Magdalene #64, born July 1, bapt. July 16 1882.
Parents were bachelor typographer Carl Ludvig Halvorsen and maiden Anne Marie Andrine Pedersen, (hun hørende til Korskirken Menighet Bergen) she belongs to Korskirken parish in Bergen (Krybbebakken), (han paa Geelmeydens Bogtrykkeri i samme By) he is at Geelmeydens printing house in the same city.
The parents were not married.
In the residence column it says:
"Kaien, iht Barnemoderen boer i Styrmand Peter Haalands Huus for tiden, hun har været 2 à 3 maaneder i Stavanger og skal snart reise herfra."
The quay, according to the childs mother she lives in 1st mate Peter Haalands house, she has been in Stavanger 2 - 3 months and shall soon depart from the city.
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Edited by - eibache on 04/02/2011 16:47:47 |
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eibache
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Posted - 04/02/2011 : 16:37:28
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Anne Marie Andrine Pedersen was confirmated in Korskirken, Bergen Oct 6 1872, see #65.
She was born in Ålesund, see #9.
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Edited by - eibache on 04/02/2011 16:42:25 |
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Karen Olsen
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 12:50:34
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Very many thanks for the translation and the extra information!
It was not as nice an event as I thought but still interesting. Perhaps explains why I could not find a marriage record. I found one for Carl Ludvig Halvorsen later, in 1889, Horten, Vestfold, to Marie Josefine Jakobsen.
Thanks again!
Karen
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Karen Olsen
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Posted - 21/02/2011 : 02:10:24
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Thanks to the information I received I have been able to trace Agnes Kathrine Magdalene Halvorsen's family in Norway.
However I could not find any information for Agnes. She is not with her mother and family in Bergen in the 1885 census (was born 1882) nor with her father's family in Bergen. Her father, Carl Ludvig Halvorsen, married another in Horten, Vestfold in 1889. In the census for Horten in 1900 he is there with his wife and son, no Agnes. I know that Agnes emigrated to South Africa, can't find out when. She married Olaf Bertinius Olsen in Natal in 1902.
I was hoping that her birth record in Stavanger might have another clue. In the last column a Gunvor Bendixen is mentioned. I have not been able to link this person to Agnes. I cannot understand what was written in this column about Gunvor. Please could I have some help to translate that bit? The last sentence is about her registration in Bergen, I think. I found an entry in the parish register for Korskirken, Bergen in July, 1882. Does this entry have any more clues about who took care of the baby, Agnes?
Korskirken July 1882
Was there any procedure about who cared for an illegitimate child if the parents did not, in the late 1800s? In the 1900 census for Stavanger there is an Agnis Halvorsen (b 1882) living with Serine Siverts (born 1842). Agnis is recorded as d - daughter? and Serine as hm - house mother? Just the 2 make up the household. Could this be my Agnes?
Stav 1900 census
Will be very grateful for any more clues!
Karen. |
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eibache
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Posted - 21/02/2011 : 07:45:57
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Agnes was confirmated in 1898, see #3. She was then living in Vinkelgade 14, see map.
In 1900 there were 3 housholds at that address.
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Edited by - eibache on 21/02/2011 07:46:41 |
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Karen Olsen
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Posted - 22/02/2011 : 10:36:36
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Thank you so much for this information. Don't know how you find it!
So I know for sure that she was in Norway until at least 1898 and was in Stavanger. She may have been a servant at Vinkelgade 14??
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eibache
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Posted - 22/02/2011 : 13:44:59
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Most likely she was living in this household - could be she had been there since baptism.
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Karen Olsen
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 10:37:21
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This is just brilliant!!
I had a careful look at this household because you have flagged it. Nothing rang a bell before but I did some checking and found that Elizabeth Olsen (nee Sivertdatter) was an aunt of Olaf Bertinius Olsen, who married Agnes in South Africa! That must be Agnes with Serine Sivertsen/datter in the 1900 census for Stavanger because Serine is also an aunt of Olaf! Serine was apparently a "styrarinne ved Pleiestiftelsen for barn, Kleivå" (Manager in the Foundation for Care for children??). Could this have been a connection to Agnes?
Please let me know why you thought that she was with this family ...and could have been from the beginning?
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eibache
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 19:53:24
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My guess of who she was living with was based on the fact that she most likely was left with someone who cared for children and that the address was given at the confirmation time, before confirmation she would not be left for herself. The widow Elizabeth Olsen (actually Lisbeth Sivertsdatter) seemed to me to be a person who would do such a job.
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Karen Olsen
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Posted - 24/02/2011 : 10:45:30
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That makes good sense. Mystery solved!
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Translation please
