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MitchRAnderson
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Posted - 13/02/2011 :  03:53:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I'm having trouble getting past my great great grandfather, mainly because I can't seem to be able to nail down his exact name. No one in the family still living has it either, so that's no help. I see all these variations in official records (which I have a good number of):

Barduns Anderson (land record for his farm)
Badenus (1860 Iowa census)
Bardieus (1870 census)
Berdinas (1875 Minnesota census)
Bartinus (1880 census)
Berdinas (1885 Minnesota census)
Bardinas (1895 Minnesota census)
Bardenes (1900 census)
Berdinus (1905 Minnesota census)

So yeah, this doesn't help matters much. Is there a commonly used name that might be similar, or might one of these be correct?

FWIW, the first born daughter's name is different on the four censuses I have, the first one at 1 year old is Betsy, the next is Bardina (11), then Bertina (15), and back to Betsy again (21).

Before anyone ask if I have the right censuses, I can very that it's the same family by the neighbors consistently showing up at each and every census, and the kids might change names (like avove), but the ages and where they were born are consistent.

Edited by - MitchRAnderson on 13/02/2011 04:07:35

jwiborg
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Posted - 13/02/2011 :  10:59:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
it looks like his name could have been Berdines, if he is born in Norway. In that case, he is most likely from Rogaland county.
A possibility: Berdines Andersen Vik born 1832 from Skudenes, Rogaland, left for America in 1858. He is most likely born (Chr?) Feb 1831 in Skudenes, Rogaland, with parents Anders Knudsen & Berte Rasmusdtr.
Berdines married Serine Johannesdr two weeks prior to their emigration:
Groom's Name: Berdines Andersen
Bride's Name: Serine Johannesdr
Marriage Date: 23 Apr 1858
Marriage Place: Skudenes,Rogaland,Norway
Groom's Father's Name: Anders Knudsen
Bride's Father's Name: Johannes Tronsen

He can be found in Sparta Township, Chippewa, Minnesota together with wife Serina in census-1900. Birthdate listed as Oct. 1830.

Emigration record from May 6th, 1858: #19 & #20, right page.
Berdines Andersen Vik (26 7/12 y.o.)
Serine Johannesdr (36 y.o.)
Source: Rogaland county, Skudenes, Parish register (official) nr. A 3.2 (1847-1863), Migration records 1858, page 462.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 13/02/2011 13:47:20
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Hopkins
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Posted - 13/02/2011 :  12:58:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absolutely correct Jan Peter.

The bygdebok for Skudenes and the work added by the Slektsforum Karmøy group also indicates that Berdines' parents and all surviving siblings also emigrated to America.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/02/2011 :  13:37:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

You're right.
Berdines' parents Anders Knudsen Vik/Bakken (68) & Berte Rasmusdtr. (65) are listed on the next page.
#21 & 22, May 6th, 1858, right page.
Source: Rogaland county, Skudenes, Parish register (official) nr. A 3.2 (1847-1863), Migration records 1859, page 463.

Census-1860 for Springfield, Winneshiek, Iowa:
Badenus Anderson m 29 laborer Norway
Serene Anderson f 36 Norway
Betsy E. Anderson f 1 Iowa

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 13/02/2011 14:00:06
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eibache
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Posted - 13/02/2011 :  15:16:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
A possibility: Berdines Andersen Vik born 1832 from Skudenes, Rogaland, left for America in 1858. He is most likely born (Chr?) Feb 1831 in Skudenes, Rogaland, with parents Anders Knudsen & Berte Rasmusdtr.

Berdines, his parents and siblings listed at Viig his birth is here listed as Sept 1831.

The marriage record is #14.

Serine was born April 8 1822, see #9, parents Johannes Tronsen and Gonild Rejersdatter, Goubedal (Gaupedal).


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 13/02/2011 15:30:43
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Hopkins
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Posted - 13/02/2011 :  19:43:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another message forum-
http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.scan-balt.norway.general/9277/mb.ashx
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MitchRAnderson
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Posted - 13/02/2011 :  19:44:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, that is a thread I started over there. Thank you all SO MUCH for all this information. This is WAY more information than I ever expected to find!
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MitchRAnderson
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Posted - 14/02/2011 :  01:17:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, so how were you able to find this needle in what seemed to me a haystack? I'm curious if there is a similar thought process that could be used to determine the other side of the family tree, which i definitely have a bit less information on.
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eibache
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Posted - 14/02/2011 :  23:15:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe experience, knowledge and creativity is the most important aspects to achieve fruitful results from use of available data.

Einar
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