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PETER JOHN HORSBURGH
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Australia
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 Posted - 20/05/2011 : 07:23:25
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For many years I have been trying to trace the family of my maternal grandfather. The name he used in Australia was Charles (William) Lewis(Ludwig) Wilson). We think he was born on the 22nd Sept. 1867 in Horten in Norway.His father's name was John William Wilson and his mother's name was Annie Cecilia Elizabeth Christensen. He arrived in Melbourne Australia on the 3rd of November 1889 on the ship Waundoura or Naundoura from Glasgow.He died at a very young age 56 years on the 13/6/1921.His wifes name was Rhoda Bessie Perrett. I have tried many ways to try and find some information such as Mormon records and Norwegian Emigration Museum. I have had no success whatever. I would greatly value any assistance.
Peter Horsburgh
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/05/2011 : 12:44:53
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With the birth and death years my algebra says he was close to 54 years old when he died, what is correct dates?
One candidate could be:
Karl Ludvig Olsen who was confirmated in Horten 1881, his birth date was Sept 22 1866, his father Ole Anderson was then dead, the mother was Anne Cecilie Fredriksen.
See #27.
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Edited by - eibache on 20/05/2011 12:58:23 |
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PETER JOHN HORSBURGH
Starting member
Australia
8 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2011 : 15:35:11
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Dear Eibache,
Just prior to retiring I checked to see if I had any replies and what a great surprise to to see your reply. The only documents I have are 1. marriage certificate (DOB 1869) 2. naturalization certificate (DOB 22/9/1867) 3.death certificate (DOB 1865).
The naturalization certificate has the most detail.(20/7/1916) . Also his wedding certificate of 1902 states that his father was already deceased) . You have given me a new avenue to check.
Thank you for your assistance.
Peter Horsburgh
p.s. your addition is much better than mine. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2011 : 15:47:53
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Hi.
Do you know if Karl Ludvig had any older siblings?
Horten 1865, the parents with 3 daughter´s and a son born between 1853-61, see here
The father Ole Andersen was born Swede
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
294 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2011 : 16:18:38
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| The mohter as a widow, without son Carl Ludvig, in 1875 census, and in 1885 census |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
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PETER JOHN HORSBURGH
Starting member
Australia
8 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2011 : 02:40:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Kċarto
Hi.
Do you know if Karl Ludvig had any older siblings?
Horten 1865, the parents with 3 daughter´s and a son born between 1853-61, see here
The father Ole Andersen was born Swede
Kċre
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PETER JOHN HORSBURGH
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Australia
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Posted - 21/05/2011 : 02:47:00
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Dear Kare,
From my knowledge (Charles Lewis) Karl Ludwig had other siblings. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2011 : 09:53:06
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Hi.
Carl Ludvig Olsen is still a candidate, his birthday correspond as for his mothers first and middlename Anne Cecilie.
How his father Ole Andersen ends up as John William Wilson is harder to explain.
Most of the emigrants kept the name or farmname, it was "Americanized" since most of the Norwegain emigrants settled there.
Some few changed to unrecognizable.
Carl Ludvig Olsen born to Ole Andersen and Cecilie Fredriksdatter was born in Borre.
His bap. record is here, #173
Wilson, probably English origin, a rare name in Norway in those days.
Another possibility for his father is John Wilson from Sande age 19 on farm Wee sĝndre 1865, father widower Fredrik Wilson, see here
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Edited by - Kċarto on 21/05/2011 10:01:09 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2011 : 10:20:39
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quote:
Carl Ludvig Olsen born to Ole Andersen and Cecilie Fredriksdatter was born in Borre.
- no, he was born in Horten (notice the H in the bapt record).
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PETER JOHN HORSBURGH
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 21/05/2011 : 14:28:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Kċarto
Hi.
Carl Ludvig Olsen is still a candidate, his birthday correspond as for his mothers first and middlename Anne Cecilie.
How his father Ole Andersen ends up as John William Wilson is harder to explain.
Most of the emigrants kept the name or farmname, it was "Americanized" since most of the Norwegain emigrants settled there.
Some few changed to unrecognizable.
Carl Ludvig Olsen born to Ole Andersen and Cecilie Fredriksdatter was born in Borre.
His bap. record is here, #173
Wilson, probably English origin, a rare name in Norway in those days.
Another possibility for his father is John Wilson from Sande age 19 on farm Wee sĝndre 1865, father widower Fredrik Wilson, see here
Kċre
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PETER JOHN HORSBURGH
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 21/05/2011 : 15:30:38
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Dear Kare,
I'm doing my best to use this system but my computer skills are poor. The 3 coincidences birth day 22/9,mother's first names and that I heard my grandfather referred to as Carl Ludwig make Carl Ludwig Olsen a possibility.Few Norwegians came to Australia and naming patterns in Norway are not easy. I'm sure some names would be changed on arrival. I will look into John Wilson as well. Have had no success with British shipping records 1889, ship Woundoura or records of Charles Lewis Wilson or Carl Ludwig Olsen Arriving in Australia.
Thank you again
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2011 : 16:05:09
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Hi.
John Wilson age 19 in 1865 "mċ taes med en klype salt" must be taken with a grain of salt.
The entire familystory is online here (Only in Norwegian, sorry), the family came from Scotland.
John Wilson age 19 in 1865 (born 1847) parents; Fredrik Andrew Wilson and Karine Nielsen.
What happened to John Wilson b. 1847, if he married and got children, if I have not missed it, is not mentioned her
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PETER JOHN HORSBURGH
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 22/05/2011 : 03:29:38
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Dear Karo,
Another avenue to explore.Would you know how I could contact the Wilson family you mentioned? I have downloaded
the history in Norwegian for future reference.
Thanks
Peter |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 22/05/2011 : 10:26:32
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Hello Peter.
I have searched in the family-tree for the name of the owner without any luck.
He only refers to himself as "Jeg" I
More and more genealogy information appears online.
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