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jeanine3040
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 Posted - 26/05/2011 : 21:50:13
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Hi everyone!
I am trying to find the commune that my ancestors lived in so I can search for the Bygdebok. My ancestor was part of St Petri Kirke Parish in Stavanger, Rogaland Norway. Does anyone know how I can figure out what commune they were from? Or does anyone have any other helpful tips on researching this?
Thank you,
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2011 : 00:00:54
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Hi,
St. Petri church is a congregation in Stavanger.
Because Stavanger is a town it has no Bygdebok (rural chronicles) because there were few if any farms there to my knowledge.
If you have some names hopefully someone can give you a start.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/05/2011 : 00:08:31
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There will not be a bygdebok for Stavanger. There are some nearby more rural districts which have books of history/genealogy written -- but not for a city.
Other than that you can use the church records of St. Petri Kirke itself. They are available onlinw for research. In my own efforts there I've found most of the Stavanger church records to be excellent resources.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wgnorway/good-queries.htm |
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jeanine3040
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Posted - 27/05/2011 : 21:02:40
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Thank you very much! After searching through the St Petri records, I have a marriage record for my two ancestors, Ole Larsen Harburg (and various spellings) and Karen Severine Rasmusdatter, but I'm not too sure what I'm looking at. The script is very difficult to decipher so I'm lost and cannot even translate it. Does anyone know what information can be found on a marriage record. I think I see two male names (maybe his father's Lars Olson) and possibly the name of a village (but it's not even in the county of St Petri). Any help would be very much appreciated. Again thank you.
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janrm
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Norway
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 29/05/2011 : 23:13:43
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What year did they marry in St. Petri?
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Kåarto
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Posted - 30/05/2011 : 00:43:24
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From the wedding record Oct. 11. 1871 in St. Petri, see #49
Bachelor and tailor Ole Larsen Harberg was born in Luster Dec. 20. 1846, father Lars Olsen.
Luster 1846 b. Dec 20. to Lars Olsen and Gunnild Pedersdatter Rønnei, see #148
No Harberg name found in the bap. record.
From the 1871 wedding;
Maid Karen Serine Rasmusdatter was born in "Hvidingsø" todays Kvitsøy Mai 2. 1852, father was Rasmus Jensen.
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eibache
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Posted - 30/05/2011 : 06:53:17
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Info on column headings.
Ole Larsens baptismal record is #148, parents Lars Olsen and Gunnild Pedersdatter, Rønnei.
Karen Serine Rasmusdatters baptismal record is at the bottom of the page. She was born out of wedlock, her mother was Berthe Osmundsdatter and the father Rasmus Jensen.
The parents were married July 8 1852, see #8. |
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eibache
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Posted - 30/05/2011 : 09:02:46
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Lars Olsen and Gunnild Pedersdatter were married Nov 3 1844, see #30, they were both 29 years and Lars father was Ole Larsen while Gunnilds father was Peder Pedersen.
Gunnild, baptized Gunelde Febr 13 1814, see #17, her parents were Peder Pedersen Øyene and Brita Eriksdatter.
Gunnildes confirmation record is #24.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 31/05/2011 : 12:38:50
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Rønnei is in Gaupne in Luster municipality.
Information about Rønnei is in Luster Bygdbok band 4
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jeanine3040
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Posted - 01/06/2011 : 19:03:29
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Wow! This is great info! I cannot thank you all enough! You have been lifesavers! I'm sure learning how to research these records will be an uphill climb for me and I know where to turn when I have questions. Again thank you all so much.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 01/06/2011 : 23:30:48
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You are welcome.
I wonder where the origin of the Harberg name comes from, I believe the name also was also spelled Hertzberg/Hertsberg in the US.
Include some info regarding Rønnei and Harberg.
In 1865 there were 16 Rønnei farms in Gaupne, no Harberg.
In 1900 there were 8 Rønnei farms in Gaupne, no Harberg.
In the neighbor village Hafslo in Luster it was a Harberg farm in 1900, a sub farm, owned by Lars Andersen b. 1846 in Luster.
- Bailiff Anders Lauritzen Heiberg owned the whole Rønnei in the early 1600s. I have seen a couple of times Heiberg spelled Harberg.
- Vicar in Hafslo in the mid. 1700s was Samuel Harberg
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Edited by - Kåarto on 01/06/2011 23:31:57 |
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jeanine3040
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 04:09:43
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Hi! I also wondered that. I read that secondary surnames are sometimes an indication of the farm they were from, which is what you were thinking too it seems.
You are absolutely right about the Harberg variation in the US. My immigrant ancestor's son, Bernard Larsen, wrote a letter to St. Paul Lutheran Church in Brooklyn NY requesting his birth certificate. In the letter he suggests to search under the names Hertzberg/Heartborg/Hertsberg and mentions that the secondary surname hadn't been used in over 70 yrs (since 1860s-70s). Maybe they stopped using Harberg when they moved from the farm to Stavanger?
I will search the Heiburg/Harberg connection and the Harberg farm that you found for some clues. Also do you think the Ronnei farms might have some information Gunnild Pedersdatter Ronnei and her family? I will try to locate the bygdebok for the Ronnei farms.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 10:39:03
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The name Harberg could come from his forefathers, it can be both a farmname and a familyname.
Lars mother Gunnild Pedersdatter born on Øyene to Peder Pedersen and Britha Eriksdatter.
The also married on Øyene Dec. 5. 1814, see 1. page almost down page couple #6
None of them was on Øyene 1801, perhaps they worked there in 1814.
Only a suggestion of possible cadidates from the 1801 census:
Peder Pedersen age 8 on farm Heltne
Peder Pedersen 11 on Bringe
Peder Pedersen 16 on Schie
Peder Pedersen 22 on Houg (Haug), National soldier
Peder Pedersen 26 on Bolstad
Brita Eriksdatter 8 on farm Høyum and Uhren, parents farmer Erik Ottesen and Kristi Anbjørnsdatter.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 02/06/2011 10:40:32 |
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