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Judy Jetson
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USA
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Posted - 08/08/2011 :  14:54:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all again for your help in finding information on Ingeborg Engen. After looking through all the data provided I realized it is not Ingeborg whose ancestry I need. None of the names associated with her were familiar to me. Then I read the name of the woman she traveled with on the Hellig Olav, and her name, both last and first, along with the name of the person they would be staying with -- Louis Anderson -- were familiar.

I know of a current day Louis Anderson in Minnesota, and am guessing he could have been named after his. . . grandfather/greatgrandfather. And there had been a Marie Slette (sometimes spelled Sletteh/Sletto), and a Pauline Haugen. Do not know how this all fits together, or if Marie Slettohaugen is who I have been searching for afterall. My guess is Ingeborg's trunk was left at Louis Anderson's home, but she was not a relative. Wouldn't a trunk be a valuable belonging in those days? Something not easily left behind?

Would love any information on Marie Slettohaugen, again greatly appreciating your kind generosity!

jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2011 :  15:18:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Here may be "your" Marie on Slettahaugen in Lesja, Oppland, Norway 1900:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f00512&gardpostnr=132&merk=132#ovre

This may be the same family same place in 1865:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=f60512&gardpostnr=178&merk=178#ovre

This is the same farm, same family, same place in 1875 (and there is a Pauline...)
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f70512&gardpostnr=150&merk=150#ovre

Jackie M

Edited by - jkmarler on 08/08/2011 15:39:37
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Judy Jetson
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USA
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Posted - 08/08/2011 :  16:07:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, thank you for the links and information jkmarler!

How did her last name change to Slettohaugen, Slettahang, Slette, Sletto or any number of other names along the way? Can you see where that happens?

Along with the original trunk we received, we also got one that has Pauline Haugen carved into it. Could Pauline have gone by all the names listed already? If so. . . how does anyone find their ancestors when names change so drastically?

Cool to see Marie and Pauline may have been sisters, and the picture may be becoming a little clearer!

Edited by - Judy Jetson on 08/08/2011 16:08:04
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2011 :  16:11:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marie Olsdatter, Slettahaug was born Dec 13 1881, see #13.

Pauline Olsdatter, Slettahaug was born Jan 21 1871, see #9.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 08/08/2011 16:27:54
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3351 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2011 :  16:24:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The name "change" was quite typical.

Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns.
(http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm)
(http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm)
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2011 :  18:57:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just in case we did not post this in the early question, here is her arrival record

Name: Marie Slettahaug
Arrival Date: 30 Oct 1906
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birth Location Other: lesje
Age: 25
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Hellig Olav
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2011 :  19:01:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And probably her coming again in 1913

Name: Marie Slette
Arrival Date: 21 Mar 1913
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birth Location: Norway
Birth Location Other: lesje
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oscar Ii
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2011 :  19:06:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is also this Marie from the 1910 US Census. Looking at the original census form the name looks to me to be Marie Slette but spelled slightly differently by the transcriber.

Name: Marie Sleth
[Marie Steth]
Age in 1910: 27
Estimated Birth Year: 1883
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1910: Duluth Ward 6, Saint Louis, Minnesota
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of immigration: 1906
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Marie Sleth 27
Mary Fleting 41
[40]
Agnes Salm 15

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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2011 :  19:09:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Here is a birth for a child whose mother's maiden name is a variation on Slettahaugen, at www.mnhs.org:

Anderson, Gladys Irene`
Date of Birth: 31 Aug 1904
Mother Maiden Name: Slettehaug
certid# 1904-41044
County of Birth: St. Louis

Her father's name is Louis Anderson and mother is Caroline Gina ( sorry for the incorrect info).

Jackie M.


Edited by - jkmarler on 09/08/2011 06:07:59
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3351 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2011 :  19:42:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Judy Jetson (yes, I remember that show...). You know WHERE those two women came from Norway and there is MUCH material available for your research.

The real joy of this hobby is being able to do it yourself. You can! There are a number of excellent materials available online for your study and the number of Norwegian resources available online for research increases almost daily. Study, practice, enjoy!

Ancestors From Norway articles (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html)
Portal to Norway research guidance of LDS Family History Library (https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Norway)
Tips on Using Digitalarkivet (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html)
Norwegian census abbreviations (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/census_abbreviations.html)
Norwegian censuses on NHDC website, instructions included (http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)

Links and more links about Norway and Norwegian genealogy (http://www.cyndislist.com/norway.htm)

Help for translating many of your finds (http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm)

Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns.
(http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm)
(http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm)

Norwegian censuses of 1910, 1900,1875 (only partially online), 1865 and 1801 are online as searchable databases. Two websites with different search functions and strengths can be used.
(http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html)
(http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)

The detail available in the extensive parish church records is a marvelous gift from Norway. The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005. To be able to use the parish records you must first know WHERE in Norway you want to search for this documentation.

The Digitalarkivet web site - (http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar)
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
When you click on that link another page will present a short list of choices - choose "Read the digitized parish registers"[English version]/"Lesa skanna kykrebøker" [Norwegian version].
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].

Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
(http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html)

Norway has a tradition of publishing history and genealogy books for many rural districts of the country called 'bygdebøker'. You might be lucky enough to have had ancestors from one of the areas which has one or more good 'bygdebøker' published about it.
Learn about 'bygdebøker' (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/bygdebok.html)
Bygdebøker and Ættarbøker can be helpful but are definitely secondary sources of information -- any research done in them should be verified in the primary sources such as the parish church records.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2011 :  19:55:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Olsen and Ingri Paulsdatter were married July 15 1861, see #8.

Ingri Paulsdatter was born June 14 1840, see #59, her parents Paul Amundsen, Bakken and Mari Jørgensdatter.

Ingris parents in 1865.

Paul Amundsen and his parents in 1801.

Paul Amundsen, Bakken and Mari Jørgensdatter, Krogstad were married Oct 22 1830, see #47.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 09/08/2011 10:41:09
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2011 :  23:03:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

It appears that there are 2 Marie in the family, age 20 1886

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=20&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=81581&merk=81581#ovre

Jackie M.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2011 :  23:09:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Here is also some family information on these folks:

http://genealogy-records.info/f_735.html

Jackie M.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2011 :  04:26:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a Minnesota death record for a man whose mothers maiden name is Slettahaug

Name: Oscar Flotten
Birth Date: 5 Jun 1901
Death Date: 22 Nov 1988
Death County: Washington
Mother's Maiden Name: Slettahaug
State File Number: 031842
Certificate Number: 031842
Certificate Year: 1988
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2011 :  04:30:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder if this is Pauline Olsdatter Slettahaug born in 1871 listed above, now married to a Flotten and with son Oscar.

Name: Pauline Flatten
[Pauline Flotten]
Age in 1910: 39
Estimated Birth Year: 1871
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Spouse's Name: Andrew Flatten
Home in 1910: Duluth Ward 3, Saint Louis, Minnesota
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of immigration: 1886
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Flatten 41
Pauline Flatten 39
Ingbred Flatten 13
Ida Flatten 11
Oscar Flatten 9
Astred Flatten 6
Anna Flatten 4
Marie Flatten 2

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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2011 :  04:33:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is her Minnesota death certificate and the birth date matches

Name: Mrs. Pauline Flotten
Birth Date: 21 Jan 1871
Death Date: 17 Jun 1961
Death County: Saint Louis
State File Number: 032145
Certificate Number: 032145
Certificate Year: 1961
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