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Shirley Terrill
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New Zealand
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 Posted - 16/08/2011 : 13:40:48
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Hi
I have found 2 graves in the Kvitnes cemetery in Nordland/Hadsel which I know one is my ancestor Edmund Chalmer born 8/7/1885 in Haugsund, died 5/3/1964 Kvitnes. His parents are Thomas Chalmer and Augusta Olava Ohlsen and I have Edmund ,his mother and his sister and her family in Drobak on 1900 census.Right next to his grave is a headstone for Edel Chalmer born 26/6/1892, died 30/1/1959. Is she his wife?, I googled Edel and an article said farm at kvitnes owned by Edel Chalmer British businessman.
I have been on the Norway National Library site and searched Edel Chalmer and there are references to him/her in a few books and after using my translating wed tool is appears Edel is Edmunds wife. Could someone please be kind enough to confirm if she is his wife. Edmund was arrested by the Germans in ww2 as he was British and on his farm there was a radio used to send info back to England on what the Germans were up to.
Many thanks
Shirley in NZ |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/08/2011 : 15:40:22
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Hi,
Edel Chalmer was a he.
He owned the Kvitnes farm in Hadsel.
Info reg. WW2 where Edel Chalmer is mentioned, he was also prisoned by the Germans.
Did Edmund had a brother Edel?
Edel Chalmer is mentioned about halv way down here
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Edited by - Kċarto on 16/08/2011 15:44:54 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 16/08/2011 : 16:22:22
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Hi,
Or a cousin since the grandfather Edmund Chalmer had such a fantastically large family (20 kids)!
However, in US the name Edel is usually a female name....
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/08/2011 : 19:11:11
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Hi, its the same in Norway, Edel is a woman´s name.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/08/2011 : 21:12:58
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Edel is buried next to Edmund, and they are the last two graves in that row. I would say chances are high that she was his wife.
You should contact the churchwarden.
The Englishman Edel Chalmer in Kvitnes could be a namesake.
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/08/2011 : 23:53:41
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I looked threw your other topics and could not find the 1910 census for Chalmer.
Lived in the Mainstreet, southern part in Drĝbak.
Augusta Olava Chalmer, widow, lives of annuity.
Thorvald Westy´s occ. "Skipklarerer" A shipping agent, his wife Margaret and a son Thorleif, occ. "uden Erhverv" No income.
Marie Larsen was a seravnt girl, see here
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/08/2011 : 00:29:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Shirley Terrill
Hi
... I have Edmund ,his mother and his sister and her family in Drobak on 1900 census.
Edmund not found in 1910 Norwegian census. Edel Chalmer also not in the England and Wales 1911 census at www.familysearch.org
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/08/2011 : 00:41:59
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Hi
Here is an Edel born on 26 June 1892 from the Norwegian 1910 census. Interesting she is from Kvitnĉs....
http://da.digitalarkivet.no/ft/person/pf01036392061986/
I guess this also makes me wonder about the cemetery or headstone transcription you found . Could it be in error, as in continuation error or some such?
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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
55 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2011 : 01:05:15
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Hi All
Kaarto, that was the article I found and started the confusion as to male/female. I can only find him on 1900 census and he is not on UK census
jkmarler, thanks for 1910 census for Edel.
GREAT NEWS while reading these, my cousin emailed me and her contact has found that Edel is Edmunds wife, they state in papers he was Britsh but he was born in Norway, cant find duel birth in UK. So at last this is solved as to who Edel was.
Thanks
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/08/2011 : 01:07:34
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Edel Ellingsen which Jackie found above was of fine family. Her father was Carl Martin Ellingsen, born 20-Dec-1848, a trademan on Kvitnes in Vesterċlen.
He was much employed in public and various municipal offices, a mayor, a member of a number of public committees and representing Nordland county in the Parlament from 1886 88, 89 91 and 95-97.
Married 15-Jul-1878 to Gunhild Beate Singdahlsen, born 18-Jan-1853 in Larvik.
This tree have nothing about Edels' faith... http://www.ofstad.info/d0101/g0000060.html#I97682
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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 17/08/2011 : 04:24:05
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Thanks jwiborg for the link to that tree, it gives us great info. Its fantastic the help everyone has given, once again.
Shirley |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/08/2011 : 10:29:02
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A photo of Edels father Carl Ellingsen
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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
55 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2011 : 10:55:53
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Hi Kare
I had also found the photo today when Google searching
Thanks again
Shirley |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/08/2011 : 21:26:10
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Add. information.
Realtives in USA?
Edels father Carl Ellingsen´s younger sister Gerhardine (Gerda) Thomine Ellingsen b. July 5. 1862 em. to New York 1892, she was a nurse and later managed a hospital in Brooklyn.
Edel´s sister Rĝnnaug b. Sept 7. 1884, student in Bĝ in Vesterċlen in the 1900 census, resident at the vicarage, supported by the father.
Trondheim 1902, Rĝnnaug Ellingsen em. to New York nursing for her aunt Gerda in the hospital in Brooklyn.
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