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IvaFranks
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 Posted - 07/11/2013 : 16:32:40
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Good Morning Kare,
This is all so amazing! I have to run off to a meeting this morning. It's 7AM in Los Angeles, CA USA. I can't wait to get home and research all of this. I do believe he was born in Norway. Again, thank you so very much!
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 07/11/2013 : 17:12:41
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Good evening Iva 
It`s a big time in defference, in Norway it begins to darken at that time.
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IvaFranks
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Posted - 07/11/2013 : 22:16:50
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Here is some of what I found on the Josephine Kravik page:
Ansten Kravik, was born in Nomedal, Norway on February 25, 1858. Her mother, Live Johonson-Eide was born in Nomedal, Norway on March 24, 1856. Liv worked on the Kravik farm in Norway.Most of this information comes from Aunt Hilda Felland. However, there are some discrepancies in dates around the time of the emigration and marriage of Ansten and Live. Mama's story is thus: Ansten had a brother who came to America first. Perhaps unbeknown to both of them, Live was pregnant by this brother when he left for America. He married someone else in this country. He wanted to take care of Live and he and Ansten agreed that Live should come to America and Ansten would marry her. Mama says the baby, Engebret, was born in Norway on February 9, 1890. Live, with this small baby, came to America on a sailing ship which took her 11 weeks on the sea. She married Ansten on November 29, 1890 in Minot, ND. Aunt Hilda's story gives no reference to Live having a baby as she crossed the Atlantic. She says Live and Ansten were married in June of 1888 in Minot, ND and Engebret was born March 19, 1889. I leave it to you which story to believe. When Mama told her version she said & I quote "it doesn't make any difference now.Anyway, it was apparently a good marriage and Live and Ansten had 6 daughters and 2 sons. Neither of the boys lived to adulthood. In spite of Mama's bout with TB and the hard life she had on the homestead and during the depression, she outlived all the rest of the Kraviks. She died on March 30, 1985 just before her 90th birthday on June 8th. SHE WAS A GOOD MAMA! Mama, Josie, was born in South Dakota in 1895.Her sisters were Gina (who married Leman Franks), Ida (who died as a young woman), Hilda (who married Ole Felland), Caroline (who married Robert Westerlind) and Andrine (who married Gilbert Molbraten). (however according to the records, she had Engebret in Norway and traveled with him to the States) :) |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/11/2013 : 22:38:42
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That correspond with the info on Josephine.
It also tells that Ansten had a brother who came to America first.
Both Ansten and Live dep. via Oslo, Ansten on Mai. 17. (Norways Nationalday), dest New York on ship Rollo to Hull England and changed ship for New York, link
Live and Engebrigt on June 13. 1890, ticket prepaid (by Ansten?), dest. Boston, on ship Rollo to Hull, link
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And they married in N. Dakota same year.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 07/11/2013 23:46:34 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/11/2013 : 23:39:02
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117 Photos from Kravik, page one of five.
A short explonation of some words on page one.
- Loft = house where all kind of food, furn, clothes, corn etc were stored. The special fundations kept mose and rats away.
- Låve = barn
- Inngangsportal = Entrance.
- Tegning = Drawing
- Gårdstun = Farmyard
- Ovnsplass = Fireplace
- Senger = Beds
- Brannmur og jernovn = Fireplace
All buildings are from the Middle-age and owned by "Norsk Folkemuseum", Oslo.
Law of Ancient Monuments before 1537
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Edited by - Kåarto on 07/11/2013 23:47:28 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/11/2013 : 23:53:23
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That will be all for today.
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IvaFranks
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Posted - 08/11/2013 : 00:23:05
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| This is all like watching a soap opera. It's so fun... You're so gracious sending me all these links and information! Thank you so very, very much!!! Oh, one question; Can you tell me, why did they build the houses so high on the stones? :) |
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IvaFranks
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Posted - 08/11/2013 : 07:24:17
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 08/11/2013 : 10:42:44
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Originally posted by IvaFranks
This is all like watching a soap opera. It's so fun... You're so gracious sending me all these links and information! Thank you so very, very much!!! Oh, one question; Can you tell me, why did they build the houses so high on the stones? :)
Genealogy is fun
Like a soap opera, genealogy is never ending.
It was a result of more than a 1000 years of experience.
Fundations were of stones and prevented decay and was wildly used in Norway to build fences, foundation of bridges, barn-bridges (see photos) etc.
Houses were if possible build on rocky land to utilize most of the fields for cultivation.
Ansten and Live`ve seen these houses several times.
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jkmarler
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/11/2013 : 15:26:44
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Live Johannesdatter age 10 with parents Johannes Halvorsen, cottager with land and Gro Nilsdatter and a brother Peder and two poor paupers on farm Vaalseiet 1865
Her mother Gro (Groe) Nielsdatter was born on farm farm Hovda in Nore Feb. 13. 1819 (Rec. in the church books for Rollag)
Parents; Niels Torgersen and Guri Sebjørnsdatter, right page #15
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"Enkemand" Widower Johannes Halvorsen Eidal-Strømmen 47 and Maid Gro Nilsdatter Strømmen 34 married in Nore stave church Dec. 5. 1855, on top page #42
Fathers; Halvor Torjersen and Niels Torgersen.
Local ladies from Nore who in 2012 dressed the railing on the bridge with knitting, link
Eidal/Strømmen is just outside to the left across the bridge 2. min. walk, the stave church is also to the left ca 5 minutes walk.
Kravik is on the right side of the brige of lake Norefjord.
The church in the back ground is Nore church from 1879.
Various spellings for Kravik; Krauvig 1568, Kraguig 1593, Krauiig 1600-1644-1626, Kragwig 1668 and Krawig 1723.
Kravik, the ending -vik means bay and I have always heard it means Crow bay.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/11/2013 : 15:46:20
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Gro Nielsdaters mother was Gurie Sebjørnsdatter.
Bachelor Niels Torgersen Haranger 24 and Gurie Sebjørnsdatter Unnerbakke 23 married in Opdal (Uvdal) Stave church July 11. 1818, right page #29
Opdal means the Upper walley, todays Uvdal.
Uvdal stave church is one of Norways most famous, click here and here
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Edited by - Kåarto on 08/11/2013 16:22:46 |
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IvaFranks
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Posted - 08/11/2013 : 17:50:43
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Gro Nielsdaters mother was Gurie Sebjørnsdatter.
Bachelor Niels Torgersen Haranger 24 and Gurie Sebjørnsdatter Unnerbakke 23 married in Opdal (Uvdal) Stave church July 11. 1818, right page #29
Opdal means the Upper walley, todays Uvdal.
Uvdal stave church is one of Norways most famous, click here and here
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So far I got as far as Niels Torgersen and Gurie Sebjørnsdatter on my genealogy page, but thats as far as I can find. So thank you for all of this. I also just got photos of Liv and Iva (my Grandmother) and a photo of Liv, Gina, Lemand, Iva and Claude. I can't get them to post. If you'd like emailed photos for the records please let me know. This is all so fun and I thank you both. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/11/2013 : 19:07:21
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You are welcome
The problem is there are two Niels Torgersen, both age 9 in 1801.
On on farm Aasgaarden and the other on farm Schiønne.
The Bygdebooks from Uvdal, not online, has the answer for both if not a family tree appears.
Guri Sebjørnsdatter was most likely from farm Grekvar, age 3 in 1801.
Parents; Farmer Sebiørn Pedersen and Birgit Gisledatter.
This info tells Guri Sebjørnsdatter Grevkar married another. Nina Karlsen is very good in genealogy and tells "I have the "books".
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Pederson (Roe) family name
