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NARVE
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 Posted - 15/09/2011 : 15:36:19
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Britha Gudmundsdtr. Sandsberg, b. 07. dec. 1820 at the Bratt-Hetland farm, Fister, Hjelmeland, Norway. She came with pa rents Gudmund Osmundson Sandsberg 1787-1840 and wife Mari/Mary Pedersdtr. 1796- (1836?) to Orleans County, New York in 1829 - after sailing with ship SALEM from Gutenburg, Sweden. Later moving to LaSalle Co., IL. Britha m. John LOTT, b. ca. 1813 in Canada - about 1842. The family are listed living in Ottawa twp., LaSalle Co., IL - in 1850, with children. Charles H Lott, b. 1843, Alice G. Lott, b. 1847 and Emma Lott, b. 1850- all b. in Illinois, probably in LaSalle county. The family are not listed here in 1860. Anyone having further info for this family. Perhaps they moved to Canada ?
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/09/2011 : 17:59:45
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The Illinois State Census does not give much information , however here is a John Lott in 1865 living in La Salle County, Illinois with a total of three males and three females.
Name: John Lott
Census Date: 3 Jul 1865
Residence state: Illinois
Residence County: La Salle
Residence Township: Northville
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/09/2011 : 19:41:53
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Census 1880 for Chicago, Cook, Illinois shows one Bertha Tupper, born ab 1827 in Norway.
Just below is Emma THOMASS born ab 1854 in Illinois, with mother born in Norway, and father born in Canada. Relationship to Samuel & Bertha Tupper is listed as "other"...
Any chances this could be Britha Lott and daughter Emma?
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Edited by - jwiborg on 15/09/2011 19:56:58 |
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Lislcat
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Posted - 15/09/2011 : 20:52:44
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| I found a death of a Charles H. Lott in the Illinois Death Index. Died July 8, 1933. Danville, Vermillion Co., Illinois. There are three Emma Lott's, but you didn't list a middle initial for her. Two are in Chicago and the other in Elgin. |
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Lislcat
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690 Posts |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 21:08:03
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Jan Peter,
On the original 1880 Census, I can see that Samuel and Bertha Tupper are listed as only being married once. As is, Emma Thomas. Emma is listed as a Boarder. Unless, John Lott, somehow became Samuel Tupper, I don't think this is the same family. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/09/2011 : 21:17:09
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Hi,
But there is this entry in the Illinois Marriages Index:
THOMASON, WILLIAM H LOTT, EMMA 1874-11-19
05 /104 8277 MACOUPIN
And also this from www.familysearch.org Illinois County Marriages:
Name: Fred O Thomas
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 1872
Event Place: Champaign, Illinois
Age:
Estimated Birth Year:
Father:
Father's Titles & Terms:
Mother:
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Spouse: Emma E Lotte
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Age:
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year:
Spouse's Father:
Spouse's Father's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Mother:
Spouse's Mother's Titles & Terms:
Reference Number:
Film Number: 338046
Digital Folder Number: 004539311
Image Number: 00668
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Also in the marriage index is a marriage between Samuel Tupper and Bertha Fitzgerald in 1867 in Champaine, Illinois.
Jackie M. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 15/09/2011 21:33:36 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/09/2011 : 21:42:58
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Interesting, Jackie.. 
The Charles H. Lott in the Illinois Death Index is not the right person.
Charles H. Lott
Birth:22 Nov 1874/1875, Madison, Indiana
Death:08 Jul 1933, Danville, Vermilion, Illinois
Parents:Frank Lott, Mary Warfield
Spouse:Mrs. Mable E. Lott
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 23:58:30
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This looks like them in Chicago from 1870 US Census, at least Bertha, Alice and Emma.
Name: Bertha Tupper
Birth Year: abt 1827
Age in 1870: 43
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1870: Chicago Ward 2, Cook, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Female
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members: Name Age
Sanul Tupper 39
Bertha Tupper 43
Alice Lote 21
Emma Lote 19
Fred Thomas 22
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 16/09/2011 : 00:05:00
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Then Emma married Fred Thomas and some of them living together and still in Chicago in 1880. Fits well with what Jackie and Jan Peter found. Even if Bertha says she was married only once on this form it still seems the best fit. Also Samuel Tupper is listed as having been born in Nova Scotia. And John Lott was born in Canada as well.
Name: Bertha Tupper
Home in 1880: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Birthplace: Nor
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel Tupper
Father's birthplace: Nor.
Mother's birthplace: Nor.
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Housekeeper
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Tupper 48
Bertha Tupper 53
Emma Thomass 26
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 01:00:19
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Emma had a 3 year older sister named Alice, according to census-1850...
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 01:19:56
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Census-1880 list Alice's mother as being born in Norway, father born in Canada.
Census-1900 list Alice as a widow in Seattle city, King, Washington. But: Born Jul 1854, and father born in France. Mother born in Norway.
Rootsweb
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 16/09/2011 01:30:42 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 13:27:08
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Hi,
Mrs. Alice Underhill and Miss Maude Underhill were living in Seattle by 1893:
http://media.digitalarchives.wa.gov/WA.Media/jpeg/F43FB64E273382590A6A08FF280B6190_1.jpg
Maud Underhill's death in British Columbia via www.familysearch.org:
Death Date: 17 Dec 1930
Death Place: New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Name: Maude Myrtle Underhill
Gender: Female
Age: 54y 6m 2d
Birth Date: 15 Jun 1876
Birthplace: Chicago, Illinois Usa
Marital Status: Single
Spouse:
Father: Nelson Underhill
Mother: Alice
Indian Agency:
Indian Band/Tribe:
Film Number: 1952651
Digital Folder Number: 4437654
Image Number: 1552
British Columbia Archives Film Number: B13140
Registration Number: 32220
and possibly Alice Underhill, also BC (age is bit suspect...):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MNPP-XXL/p1
Charles Underhill is also a resident of Seattle in 1900.
However it appears Nelson Underhill didn't die until 1914...
www.familysearch.org Utah Deaths:
Name: Nelson Underhill
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 17 May 1914
Burial Place:
Death Date: 12 May 1914
Death Place: Denver, Colo.
Age: 61
Birth Date: 04 Jul 1852
Birthplace: Wis.
Occupation: Commis. Of Railway Ass'N
Race: White
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: George Underhill
Father's Birthplace: Unknown
Mother's Name: Unknown
Mother's Birthplace: Unknown
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B54936-3
System Origin: Utah-EASy
Source Film Number: 26557
Reference Number: rn J-654
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Jackie M. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 16/09/2011 16:57:48 |
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jkmarler
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Lislcat
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690 Posts |
Posted - 17/09/2011 : 00:40:17
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| Quick question. Where did Bertha get the last name Fitzgerald, that was listed on the marriage record of Samuel Tupper and Bertha Fitzgerald? Shouldn't it have been Lott or Gudmansdatters? Maybe Samuel was her 3rd marriage? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/09/2011 : 01:58:27
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Hi,
I don't really know. Did she pick up another husband along the way? Or is it something a little more mundane such as a ghastly interpretation of Gudmundsdatter Sandsberg? If someone sees the actual register perhaps that will be revealed...
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