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muinn
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 Posted - 26/09/2011 : 18:52:48
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May 13th 1903 Nils Christian Eriksen Veraas (born 1858 in Norway) left Trondheim for the USA. He was going to Thompsonville, Michigan. In the register of emigrants from Trondheim at Digitalarkivet his name was written "Nils Kristian Veraas".
September 14th 1904 the wife Karen (born abt 1864 in Sweden) and the daughter Anna (actually Anna Marie, born 1889 in Sweden) went from Trondheim to join Nils in Thompsonville.
In Thompsonville, Michigan there were 226 people in 1904, so it shouldn't be hard to find them if they are in any census there.
I haven't been able to find them, and I don't know if this is due to my subscriptions on vital records (two subscriptions) or if I am searching for the wrong names. I know one brother of Nils used "Erickson" after emigrating to the US. The name of the place they came from was actually "Væraasvald", and one can understand why Erickson was preferred as a family name.
Our family had Karen and Nils Veraas' grandson Harold Johnson visiting us this summer, and he told me that the family may have lived in Minnesota later.
In the twenties I should have found the daughter Anna Marie married to Ole Kristian Johnson, living in Puget Island, Wahkiakum County, Washington, but I had no luck there either. The closest town would be Cathlamet. Their children were Birger, Olga Amanda, Vilhelm Frederick, Hazel Constance, Gladys Carolina and Harold Edward (born 1924), all called Johnson of course. Some time around 1930 they had to move from their farm in Puget Island, so they are probably to be found somewhere else in Washington after that.
Are there anyone who can find these people in the censuses from Thompsonville MI or Wahkiakum County WA ? |
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jkmarler
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jwiborg
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 20:24:32
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Census-1930 for Wahkiakum, Washington:
Ole K Johnson, born 1870
Anna M Johnson, born 1889
Hazel C Johnson, born 1914
Gladys C Johnson, born 1917
Harold E Johnson, born 1924
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 21:16:44
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Hi,
There were 13 Ole Johnson entries in the Michigan Marriages database at www.familysearch.org. Most promising:
Groom's Name: Ole Johnson
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Anna Neilson
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 06 Jan 1906
Marriage Place: Wallin, Benzie, Michigan
Groom's Father's Name: John Ell...
Groom's Mother's Name: Bertha Ean...
Bride's Father's Name: Chris Neilson
Bride's Mother's Name: Carrie Lundgren
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01731-8
System Origin: Michigan-ODM
Source Film Number: 2342673
Reference Number:
Benzie is the same county that Thomsonville is in. |
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muinn
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 21:22:08
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Thank you! I now have some birth years to use for my further search in addition to those I had before. I now found this family in Getchell, Snohomish, WA in 1910:
Ole C Johnson (40)
Anna M Johnson (22)
Olga A Johnson (2)
a son of 1 month (may be Birger or Wilhelm)
Peder J. Johnson (33) - Ole's brother
Karen Nelson (46)
Aasmund Solem
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 21:27:19
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Originally posted by muinn
Karen Nelson (46)
Hi
Is Karen assigned a relationship, like mother-in-law or ?
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muinn
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 21:39:16
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| The marriage between Anna Marie and Ole Kristian I would guess must have been in 1907-1908, and Benzie was an excellent suggestion. The bride's father though was named Nils Kristian and the bride's mother was named Karen, so I don't think the one above is the right one. Having said that, I am trying to find out whether the lady called Karen Nelson living together with them in 1910 in Getchell, Snohomish was Anna's mother. The birth year 1864 is right, as well as the first name. Remembering my cousin (actually my mother's second cousin) Harold calling his grandfather "Nelson", I wonder if they used Nelson as last name. I don't even know Karen's maiden name from Sweden. Nils (Anna's father) was a preacher or something, but still Nils and Karen is said to be divorced at some time. This Karen Nelson in Snohomish in 1910 has marital staus: Married. This is a puzzle! - and names like Karen, Ole, Nils or Nels doesn't make it easier to find in those Scandinavian areas! |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 21:45:34
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Hi,
You might want to try the Michigan death databases also at www.familysearch.org.
They were down a moment or two ago so no help now.
There were actually two Ole Johnsons with a wife named Anna who died in Washington State in 1934--so not sure if he actually relates. And its rather curious about the findagrave listings since the stone only has 1934 and no other information--where did those dates come from?
Well, good luck to you.
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muinn
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 21:46:15
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| To the mother-in-law question above: As you can see I don't quite know about this Karen, because the last name "Nelson" is a bit confusing. If it is Anna Marie's mother/Ole K.'s mother-in-law, her husband's first name was Nils, but if you look on top of this page, there is no Nelson in "Nils Kristian Eriksen Veraas", but as I said, I don't know her maiden name. She still looks married by the transcript of the census, but they were divorced at some time. I also don't know if they just used "Nelson" even though Nils Kristian should have used "Eriksen". And: The census transcript from 1910 doesn't say anything about the relationship to the "head of household" Ole K. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 21:53:50
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Hi,
Well, I suppose you know that Karen and Anna Veraas arrived 4 Oct 1904 in New York on the Philadelphia. Their destination was to husband Nils Veraas at 44 Vellin, PO Thompsonville Wisc. So there is a physical addres at Vellin (Wallin?) and mailing address at Thompsonville.
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muinn
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 22:11:27
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Yes, I know. Searching for last name Veraas though has not come up with much useful information, I'm afraid.
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jkmarler
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muinn
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 23:14:52
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Karen Nelson in the 1910 census is listed as married.
There weren't many Baptists in Norway those days, and this has been a little puzzle to me. I so far have the hypothesis that he has been working in the forests of mid-Sweden, called Jämtland in the 1880s and 1890s, and met his Karen there. Notice that their daughter Anna Marie was born in Sweden. If he was introduced to the Baptist faith in Sweden or through the revival (?) in the Levanger/Skogn area, I don't know, but it is certainly interesting. I have planned to check with the local church historians and a Baptist pastor around here if they can give me any information about this. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 23:33:01
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Hi,
Familysearch was back up. I see also that Karen and Anna are both given migration date of 1898--different than her husband's of 1893 and out of line with the 1904 immigration year. Seems to be a lot circumstances connecting her and Karen in this one record, even though the most important to clarify--relationship to head- is missing. New baby in the house, maybe grandma came to help....
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 23:40:35
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Hi,
Well, check me if I'm wrong but if he is Baptist and the Lutheran church is the church perhaps their marriage is recorded in some dissenter list someplace,or only as a civil marriage.
Thompsonville is right on the border between Benzie and Manistee counties, and appears that logging industry is important there, right on the lake. So his occupation in the lumber trade would have been something he could do in Michigan as well.
Where did the brother who went by last name Erickson live in US?
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muinn
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Posted - 27/09/2011 : 00:13:23
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Marriage record: They probably married in Sweden, so I should try to find them there. I think I have tried the possibilities in Norway, but I can take a look. Since we had a Methodist church here, there are listings in the "Ministerialbok" of the Lutheran church late 19th Century for dissenters, at least in Levanger town. It would be nice though, since Swedish records are not open and free as in Norway.
His little brother Søren Erickson (1881-1972) lived in Westport, Clatsop County OR. He came in 1909, his wife Augusta (1886-1980) and their three children Johan/John (b. 1905), Einar (b. 1907) and Sverre (born 1910) came in 1912. When I look for death records, I find that Augusta and Søren lived in Longview, Cowlitz, WA on their old days.
I have found the 1920 and 1930 census for this family, and the passenger list records.
They were 10 siblings, Nils - whom we have taced here - was oldest, born July 22nd 1858, my great grandmother in 1863, Søren was the youngest, born September 9th 1881. They were of "husmannsfolk". Out of 10 children, 8 lived beyond childhood, and having some left of my research, my hypothesis so far is that 5 out of these 8 emigrated to the USA or Canada.
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