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LaurenWahl
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 Posted - 13/10/2011 : 22:13:12
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| I am researching grandfather and his forebears, the Kloppens of South Dakota. My grandfather's name was Severt/Sivert/Syvert Kloppen. His father was Kundt/Knut Kloppen or Kloppene. The family immigrated to South Dakota at the end of the 19th century. I cannot locate the name of my grandfather's mother or any other information about her. She died when my grandfather was very young. He was born in South Dakota. His siblings were Annie Kloppen Mathison and Hans Kloppen, also of South Dakota. There is little about individuals named Kloppen on Ancestry.com, where I have been working. I will be grateful for any information or suggestions about other sources to research. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/10/2011 : 22:48:47
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| A birth year would be valuable. |
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LaurenWahl
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Posted - 13/10/2011 : 22:59:09
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Severt K. Kloppen was botn on 9 July 1888 in Canton, South Dakota. He died in May of 1968 in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
Kundt Kloppen was born in December of 1842 in Norway. He died on 10 April 1929 in Humboldt, South Dakota. I have found records of his arrival in the USA in 1881, 1882, and 1883 on Ancestry.com. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 01:04:09
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Hi,
This is from the South Dakota state Historical society website, 1st papers Naturalization records:
Kloppen Hans Lincoln 10/31/1896 Norway 2330 178
Kloppen Knudt Syversen Lincoln 11/05/1888 Norway 2329 335
In the cemetery database the same site Knute dies in 1929.
At rootsweb. there is this database, not a lot of detail but the title of the database is in Norwegian, it has been fairly recently updated (2009) so might be worth an email.
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mineaner&id=I1924
In the 1865 census there are only a handful of Kloppen farms which should narrow where you will have to look.
Jackie M.
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LaurenWahl
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 01:12:40
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Thank you, Jackie,
That is my mother's grandfather and one of his sons. I wasn't sure if they had been naturalized, so it's nice to know they became citizens. Also, I plan to explore the South Dakota state Historical society website. Most of my family on both sides lived primarily in South Dakota and both of my parents were born there. Again, I am most grateful.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 01:29:49
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Hi Lauren,
Those are just the first papers, they may or may not have become citizens--at least by 1900 Knut had not.
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 05:00:55
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Hi Lauren,
Here are a couple of things:
When I googled Hans Kloppen it pulled up the actual image of page 3, of the 4 Apr 1935 Hawarden Independent newspaper which is actually on www.newspaperarchive.com. It was published on col 1:
"Hans Kloppen who made his home with Martin Severson family in Canton was found dead in his bed the morning of March 28th. Kloppen was 59 years of age and had lived in Canton for fifty years. He was unmarried and is survived by a brother and a sister who live at Humboldt, S.D. death was presumably caused from a heart attack."
[When I searched www.genforum.com for Kloppen it found no page, but when I searched using Mocavo.com it found a few references in a genforum discussion concerning a Kloppen family member named Ingebor whose maiden name was being discussed. Her maiden name was given a "Ohej" in one place and possibly Asmirsen or Halvorsen in another. There wasn't enough detail to know if this entry even relates to the Engeborg buried in Lincoln County, S.D. or not but might be worth trying to pursue. Here is the opening inquiry in the series which mentioned a Kloppen farm at genforum.com:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/norway/messages/13032.html
Very unlikely that this relates to your search]
When I searched for a farm named Kloppen in the 1865 census transcription at the Norwegian Digital archives it found 6 parishes in Norway which had Kloppen farms. These are:
Fylke Akershus parishes: Kraakstad (2 farms), Ullensager (2 farms)
Fylke Hedmark parish: Tĝnset (2 farms)
Fylke Oppland parishes: Nordre Fron (1 farm), Jevnaker (1 farm)
I zipped through them very quickly but I didn't see a Knut Syverson there. The family may have become associated with the farm later or its also possible that another spelling of the Kloppen name --Gloppen--might also have to be searched.
There are several tacks you could take with the 1865 census if you would like to search yourself.
Jackie M.
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LaurenWahl
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 05:29:05
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Dear Jackie,
I am so grateful for your generous help. I didn't know of any of these sources. It never occurred to me that googling someone from that long ago would produce results. I'll check into all of them. Again, thank you so much for your expert help.
Lauren. |
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 10:46:52
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Hi.
You tells that lastname also can be Kloppene.
In the mid 1800s there were Kloppene farms in Austre Moland and Froland
The initial K. in Severt/Sivert/Syvert K. Kloppen stands for Knudsen after his fathers name Knud Kloppen (Norwegian naming practice)
If Sivert was Knud´s 1. born son and the naming practice was kept up in America Knud Kloppen was most likely Knud Sivertsen Kloppen/Kloppene b. Dec. 1842 in Norway (Knud´s father was Sivert ?)
Kloppene is majority for Kloppen.
The meaning of the name is probably a path that crossed a bog, see here
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 11:39:04
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Hi,
Okay there are 4 additional farms of the name Kloppene in the 1865 census in Aust Agder: Ĝstre Moland (3 farms), Froland (1 farm). Again no Knut Syverson on them.
Lauren's grandfather was not the oldest child in the family. The oldest surviving was Hans Kloppen b abt 1875 or 1876, a sister Anne born about 1881, then Sever. Hans and Anne were born in Norway, Sever was born in US.
Knut Syverson Kloppen (he used that name in his declaration of intention record) was born Dec 1842 or 1843 in Norway. His wife's name may have been Engebor and they may have had additional children who died in US named Marie and another named Syvert.
Reported migration years vary between 1880-1884.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 12:48:50
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Hi,
Here is a family I think might possibly be the Kloppens, although the farm is not Kloppen but appears to be Holm, leaving Lesja in 1882, parents and 4 children including a Marie, a Hans b. 1874, an Anne b. 1879 and a Syvert b 1876. They are #12 & 13 on this page and 14,15, 16,17 on next page:
Source information: Oppland county, Lesjaskog in Lesja, Parish register (official) nr. 9 (1854-1889), Migration records 1882, page 297.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6067&idx_id=6067&uid=ny&idx_side=-245
Well, here is birth/baptism info for a Knut Syversen Holen Dec 1842, #174:
Source information: Oppland county, Lesja, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1830-1842), Birth and baptism records 1842, page 231.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9239&idx_id=9239&uid=ny&idx_side=-234
Here is baptismal record for Hans Knutsen this time on Kvam, #15:
Source information: Oppland county, Lesjaskog in Lesja, Parish register (official) nr. 9 (1854-1889), Birth and baptism records 1874, page 72.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6067&idx_id=6067&uid=ny&idx_side=-77
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Edited by - jkmarler on 14/10/2011 13:49:34 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 15:03:15
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There are farms in Lesja called Kloppadalen (Kloppa-valley)
Bachelor "Ungkarl" Knud Syversen Holen under Lien married Maid "Pige" Ingeborg Hansdatter Leren Nov. 26. 1871, see #6.
Holen under Lien means that Hole was a sub farm under Lien.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 16:10:48
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Hi Kċre,
What a cool thing to find out (Kloppadalen).
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LaurenWahl
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 18:18:08
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Dear Kare and Jackie,
Thank you so much. My mother just told me that her father, Severt Knutsen Kloppen had told her that his family was named for a place where they lived. He said everyone who lived there was called "Kloppen." Kloppadalen must be that place. The Old Romsdal Cemetery in South Dakota lists an Engeborg Kloppen, as you told me, Jackie. In adjacent graves are a Syvert, Marie, and Marie, all Kloppens. The dates Knud Syversen Holen and Ingeborg Hansdatter Leren married work with the dates I already know for my grandfather and his siblings. All of the dates and names you have provided work with what I know. Thank you both so much for your kind help in solving this family mystery.
With gratitude,
Lauren |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 18:30:18
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Lots of cool names on Norwegian farms and places.
From the farm name you can read (mostly) info ab. the farm, location, terrain, former owner or the first settler etc.
At least we know that Kloppen existed in Lesja in the 1700s, Knud Kloppen.
Who he was I do not know.
Knud Hansen Kloppen age 84 died 1790, burid Sept. 3., see right page 9. line from top here
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