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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  23:43:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your ancestors came from several municipalities in Oppland and Hedmark Counties Danny.

Leuthen is Lĝten

A curiosity.
Lĝten is wellknown for Lĝiten Aquavit

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 16/11/2011 23:46:39
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  00:38:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Hi,

Well there is at least one Sigrid Knutsdatter whose father was a Knut Olson, this from Gulsvik in Flċ:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=59&filnamn=f60616&gardpostnr=65&personpostnr=405&merk=405#ovre

But a quick scan of the faddernes for Sigrid's children doesn't find names of siblings as in the family at Gulsvik.

Jackie M.



This Sigrid is definately eliminated from possibles. She was born in 1854, married in Norway and lived in Norway until her death in either 1930 or 1934.

Jackie
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Kċarto
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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  10:02:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
Bachelor Martinus Xtensen (Kristensen) born. Mai. 5. 1822 came to Ċmot from Nordstad-eiet in Stange Jan. 6.1849 to marry Andrea Hansdatter, left page (recorded same day as they married) #4

Kċre
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Kċarto
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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  10:41:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bachelor Martinus Kristensen (Christensen) actually left farm Dĉlin-eiet, Stange for Ċmot already in 1841 or -42, reg. 1848.
Born on Nordstad-eie, a subfarm under Nordstad in Stange.
Lots of info, last line in the margin tells about a "leiermaal 1845, a child born out of wedloc, right page #6

The child was Kristian born out of wedloc July 27. 1845 to Anne Olsdatter Ĝstby-eie and bachelor Martinus Kristensen Ottestad-eie, Martinus was living on farm Destet in Ċmot, see #108

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 17/11/2011 11:00:20
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eibache
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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  16:40:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Martinus Christensen left Stange and went to Ahrmegarden in Christiania Aug 17 1838, see #7.

Einar
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jkmarler
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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  20:33:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

The uĉgte son Christian born in 1845, was still living in 1846, here is his baptism vaccination #96:

Kildeinformasjon: Hedmark fylke, Stange, Ministerialbok nr. 11 (1846-1852), Vaksinerte 1846, side 372.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8855&idx_id=8855&uid=ny&idx_side=-313

Jackie M.

Edited by - jkmarler on 17/11/2011 20:34:21
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Kċarto
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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  20:35:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Martinus traveled a lot, he seems to have been an enterprising man to improve daily life.

Reg. Ahrmegarden.
Ahrme (Armé) Army?
Army-house?

Armegaard was also a rare familyname.

Kċre
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Kċarto
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Posted - 18/11/2011 :  00:06:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Hi,
Martin Christianson is living on Ulvaaen in Aamot in 1865 with another son named Kristian aged 11. Martin's birth place is given as "Stange":
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f60429&gardpostnr=435&merk=435#ovre
Jackie M.


In 1865 Martinus family status on Ulvaaen was "Inderst", related to the owners.
His occ was Daylaborer, Lumberjack and Timber rafter.

No wonder Martinus and his son Christen age 11 was on Ulvaaen 1865, Christen was born on Ulvaaen Sept. 16. 1855, see #118


Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 18/11/2011 00:38:15
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eibache
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Posted - 18/11/2011 :  08:00:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Isn't it a bit dangerous to state that Martinus was related to the owners of Ulvaaen without having a proof?
I have always understood "inderst" as a term refering to a lodger - a tenant who rented a room or a bed in the home of a leilending or a husmann, but who did not receive board, i.e., not room and board, but room only. The term could also mean a "losjerende or logerende" - simply a lodger renting room.

Einar
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Kċarto
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Posted - 18/11/2011 :  09:55:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps you are right.
I have seen both terms used.
None of the names on Ulvaaen seems to be relatives by first glance.

El-single lodger.
L- Lodger
Fl-Lodger related to the family.
Inderst kept their own houshold.

Kċre
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/11/2011 :  10:25:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Well, Martinus' wife Andrea had at least 2 siblings whose father names were different from hers, so even though she was gone by the 1865 census, her relatives might still have been considered Martinus a relative as well...

Not mentioning, of course, that none of Martinus' siblings, nor siblings of his parents have been discussed, either, so there are lots of possible relatives.

There could be a wide assortment of relationships which haven't been revealed yet.

Jackie M
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