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eibache
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  09:22:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would be fine to know where the birth date for Sigrid, Dec 12 1855, comes from.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  09:36:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I assume you don´t have the letters Æ-Ø-Å.
They left Åmot for Øystre Slidre within 1876 where Johan was confirmated June 11. living on farm Vindingstad

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Edited by - Kåarto on 16/11/2011 09:39:37
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  09:56:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
I have a Martin Kristensen born 1822 leaving Åmot for Øystre Slidre 1870, recorded 1872, see right page #2

"Hmd. Huusmand" Cottager/Leaseholder Martinus Kristensen born 1822 died of pneumonia in Vindingstad June 5. 1885, #25

Johan Martinussen was from Vindingstad-eie, a sub farm under Vindingstad, when he married Sigrid Knudsdatter Jan. 29. 1880 in Rogne church
His father was "Inderst" related to the owner of Vindingstad when John was confirmated 1876.

Kåre
Edited by - Kåarto on 16/11/2011 10:28:33
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eibache
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  09:57:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sigri Knudsdatter, 12 years old, is a "lægdslem" in the 1865 census.
This is most likely the Sigrid Knudsdatter born Dec 4 1854 whose parents were Knud Jørgensen and Marit Olsdatter at Præsterud.
The mother is a widow after her 2nd marriage, see 1865 census, the father, Knud Jørgensen, had died in 1859, see #7.
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 19/11/2011 20:34:54
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eibache
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  10:15:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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They left Åmot for Øystre Slidre within 1876 where Johan was confirmated June 11. living on farm Vindingstad
- Johans sister Anne is recorded as moving in at Slidre Nov 5 1875 #4 where it says she moved from Aamot Oct 27 1875, see #51.
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 16/11/2011 10:16:34
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  11:12:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Then it´s Anne Martinusdatter as a welfare recipient on Ilsaas Nordre in 1865

Johan Martinusen as a welfare recipent on Baastadløkken in 1865

The reason was that the mother Andrea died age 40 on Malmbekken July 19. 1865, see #22

Kåre
Edited by - Kåarto on 16/11/2011 11:25:23
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  12:40:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johan M. Jørstad, married worker, left Oslo on ship Rollo, to hull England where he changed ship, dest Kenyon.

Info comes from this link
Ticket was prepaid (in USA?)

Kåre
Edited by - Kåarto on 16/11/2011 12:41:22
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  12:47:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Johan's sister Anne's birth /baptism, #63:

Source information: Hedmark county, Åmot, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1842-1861), Birth and baptism records 1853, page 66.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8898&idx_id=8898&uid=ny&idx_side=-71


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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  13:25:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Martin Christianson is living on Ulvaaen in Aamot in 1865 with another son named Kristian aged 11. Martin's birth place is given as "Stange":

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f60429&gardpostnr=435&merk=435#ovre

Search in the Stange church books for 1822 finds only one Martin Christenson, #38:

Kildeinformasjon: Hedmark fylke, Stange, Ministerialbok nr. 8 (1814-1825), Fødte og døpte 1822, side 109-110.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9124&idx_id=9124&uid=ny&idx_side=-57


Jackie M.
Edited by - jkmarler on 16/11/2011 13:40:13
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  15:36:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
Good find Jackie, and the record for when Martinus was born when he left Åmot 1870 is Mai. 12. 1822, which was his christening. day.

The meaning of Malmbækken, todays Malmbekken.
Malm in this meaning is Bog iron and Bækken means stream or a small creec.
Malmbekken is located by a creek that come from a bog-pond.

Kåre
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  16:46:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Varying spellings for Jørstad through the years:
1330 a Joregstadum, 1338 Joregstadhom, 1339 a Joregsstadum, 1344 a Jorexstada, 1347 a Jorexstadum, 1385 a Joreghstadum, 1441 a Jorestada, 1441 a Joræstadum, 1520 Joerstad, 1578 Jorstad/Jørstad, 1594 Jørstad, 1604 Jørstad, 1668 Jørstad, 1723 Jørstad.

Last ending Stad means place, first part in the name is more difficult, probably mans name Jorekr, Jorekr´s place.

Kåre
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  16:50:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there any reason why the family would have used the last name Forstad. Here is an arrival for a Joh J Forstad. Arrival date fits well with Johan leaving Norway. Age fits well as does his destination of Minnesota. Also the two names next to Johan are Ing. Frantsen age 27 and Ands. Frantsen age 17 both going to Illinois and both listed in the Emigrnater frå Kristiania
posted above.

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945 Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945
Name: Joh J Forstad
Arrival Date: 24 Jun 1889
Age: 28 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Ohio
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_12


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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  17:24:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

The answer to Jørstad vs Forstad could also be found in the original handwritten records. Capitals F and J could easily be confused in the eye of the transcriber...

Jackie M.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  18:37:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto


Martin´s father was (not sure) widower Kristen Reiersen Malmbækken, 4 children in 1865.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=17&filnamn=f60429&gardpostnr=630&personpostnr=2881&merk=2881#ovre

Not to confuse you;
Kristen Reiersen Malmbækken was not Martinus Kristensen´s father.
Martinus was born in Stange, see Jackie´s posting.
Martinus parents: Christen Torgersen and Anne Rasmusdatter Nordstad-eie, a sub farm under Nordstad.

Kåre
Edited by - Kåarto on 16/11/2011 18:42:36
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eibache
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Posted - 16/11/2011 :  23:02:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Martinus Christensen and Andrea Hansdatter were married Jan 6 1849, see #3.
Martinus Baptismal record is #38.
Andrea was born Jan 1 1826, see #20. She was born out of wedlock, the mother was Ingeborg Andersdatter, Aarstad-eyet and the father was Hans Andersen, Engelrud in Leuthen.
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 16/11/2011 23:18:44
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