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johnboyy
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 Posted - 03/12/2011 : 04:14:52
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I am sorry if I posted in the wrong place. I am writing to this forum because i could really use some help. Either I could use help in finding or navigating around. I am looking for information about my great, great, grandfather’s migration to the US. Here is what I know or am told. According to US census he migrated here in 1862 from Norway, He was born in about 1849, and his name here was Tollef T. Thompson. He Was in Wisconsin and then Minnesota. I have no Idea where he was born other than Norway. I also could use help location His second wife. She was born in Sweden, migrated here in abt 1900, and best I can tell her name is Emma s. and married Thompson. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thank you all. John  |
Thanks for everything, Johnboyy |
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johnboyy
Starting member
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Posted - 03/12/2011 : 04:52:13
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OK, one more thang might help, I know kids names in Norway were also ancestor names as well, not sure if he did the same, but maybe they will help. But first I assume it or they were mistakes with the census people, but he was also listed as tally, Tollef, Tolef, and Tolley, his kids names were:
Andrew Thompson
Seibert or sever Thompson
Anna or annie Thompson
George Thompson
Lena Thompson
Decker Thompson
Thomas Thompson
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Thanks for everything, Johnboyy |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 06:23:47
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Born about 1849 and emigrating in 1862, he would have been only 13 years old. Seems a little young for traveling alone.
In order to help some more investigation in the US would be beneficial.
His name in Norway would most likely be Tollef or Tolli and his father most likely Thomas. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 10:59:21
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Hi,
Here is Tollef's family in 1910, Itasca Minnesota from www.familysearch.org:
Name: Tolef Thompson
Birthplace: Norway
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Residence: Third River, Itasca, Minnesota
Marital Status: Married
Race : White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1862
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Family Number: 12
Page Number: 3
Household Gender Age
Tolef Thompson M 61y
Child Andrew Thompson M 34y
Child Annie Thompson F 15y
Child George Thompson M 14y
Child Lena Thompson F 13y
Child Decker Thompson F 8y
Child Thomas Thompson M 5y
Chelsea A Sampson M 29y
Most likely Tollef's death (based on location) also from www.familysearch.org:
Name: Tollif Thompson
Gender: Male
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 11 Oct 1918
Death Place: Third River, Itasca, Minnesota
Age: 72
Birth Date: 1846
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02117-8
System Origin: Minnesota-EASy
Source Film Number: 2218013
Reference Number:
Birth information for the daughter Decker at www.mnhs.org:
Thompson, Decker Wadena
Date of Birth: 05 Mar 1902
Mother Maiden Name: Peterson
certid# DC-30287
County of Birth: Itasca
Jackie M.
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Edited by - jkmarler on 03/12/2011 11:30:34 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 11:23:29
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Could Tollef T. Thomson be the same person as Tollef Thomasen Tollefsen?
An Tollef Thomasen was born in Lærdal of farm Afdal Nov. 24. 1847, bap. Dec. 5.
Parents; Thomas Tollefsen and Guri Olsdatter, see #181
Can´t find this family in the 1865 census for Lærdal
Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 03/12/2011 11:34:43 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 12:01:08
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Hi,
This appears to be the family in 1900 in Hennepin County, Minnesota. Most of the children's names match the list but Tally's birthdate varies as does date of migration. From www.familysearch.org:
Name: Tally Thompson
Titles & Terms:
Residence: Minneapolis city, Hennepin, Minnesota
Birth Date: May 1852
Birthplace: Norway
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Spouse: Emma C Thompson
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Birthplace: Sweden
Father:
Father's Titles & Terms:
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother:
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Race or Color (expanded): White
Head-of-household Name: Tally Thompson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 6
Estimated Marriage Year: 1894
Mother How Many Children:
Number Living Children:
Immigration Year: 1870
Enumeration District: 0079
Page: 14
Sheet Letter: A
Family Number: 295
Reference Number: 6
Film Number: 1240768
Image Number: 00617
Household Gender Age
Tally Thompson M occupation brick mason
Spouse Emma C Thompson F (born 1870 Sweden, mig 1893
Child Andrew Thompson M (born Jan 1876 Wisconsin)
Child Cevert M Thompson M (b. June 1877 Minnesota)
Child Annie M Thompson F (b. 1895 Minnesota)
Child George Thompson M (b. Jun 1897 Minnesota)
Child Lena Thompson F (b. Mar 1898 Minnesota)
Child Thomas Thompson M (b. Jan 1900 Minnesota)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11840-174939-78?cc=1325221
Jackie M. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 03/12/2011 13:06:07 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 12:11:54
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Seems like Tollef above b. 1847 died.
Another Tollef was born to the same parents June 26. 1852, bap. July 18.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 12:33:13
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Hi,
Tally in 1900's marriage record at www.familysearch.org:
Groom's Name: Tollaf T. Thompson
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace: Of Hennepin, Minnesota
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Kalot Petterson
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace: Of Hennepin, Minnesota
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 02 Sep 1894
Marriage Place: Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M73750-9
System Origin: Minnesota-EASy
Source Film Number: 1380434
Reference Number: cn64-189
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FDDC-BLQ
Jackie M. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 03/12/2011 12:35:09 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 13:15:14
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Hi,
Here is Tally's family in 1880 census Hennepin County, Minnesota:
Name: Tolley T. Thompson
Residence: Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
Birthdate: 1860
Birthplace: Norway
Relationship to Head: Self
Spouse's Name: Emma S. Thompson
Spouse's Birthplace: Norway
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Race or Color (Expanded): White
Ethnicity (Standardized): American
Gender: Male
Martial Status: Married
Age (Expanded): 20 years
Occupation: Tends Brick Mason
NARA Film Number: T9-0622
Page: 228
Page Character: B
Entry Number: 3471
Film number: 1254622
Household Gender Age
Tolley T. Thompson M 20
Spouse Emma S. Thompson F 27
Child Andrew Thompson M 4
Child Seibert Thompson M 1
Interesting that wife #1 and wife #2 both named Emma. Wife #1 born Norway, wife #2 born Sweden. No picture of page at www.familysearch.org but might be worth a look to see if Tolley's age is 20 or something else.
Yes his age is a misinterpretation of a malformed 28 instead of 20.
Here is a link to the likeliest family in the 1885 Minnesota state census to be Tally's. Interesting that his name is carried as Thomas:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MQX6-XJX
Jackie M.
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Edited by - jkmarler on 07/12/2011 18:39:09 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 13:28:15
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Hi,
Here is a possible in 1870 census, 25 July 1870, Fennimore, Grant County, Wisconsin at www.familysearch.org:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11811-117301-35?cc=1438024
And another in 1870 census, 8 July 1870, Gale, Trempealeau County, Wisconsin, same place:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11774-77730-50?cc=1438024
Jackie M. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 03/12/2011 13:33:55 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 15:39:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto
[Can´t find this family in the 1865 census for Lærdal
Kåre
I think this the family in 1865.:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=62&filnamn=f61424&gardpostnr=221&personpostnr=1484&merk=1484#ovre
They would have been in Lærdal in 1865 if Årdal hadn't been seperated out in 1863.
Altogether I see 35 Tollef (many spellings) b 1852, numerous fylke and parishes. Of these there are 4 whose father's first name (and their patronymic) begins with T but quite a few more whose father's patronymic name (and not necessarily their first name) starts with a T.
Tollef Tobiasson b. Haa living on Røderullen father's name Tobias Gabrielson
#16
Source information: Rogaland county, Nærbø in Hå, Parish register (official) nr. A 5 (1842-1853), Birth and baptism records 1852, page 52.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1611&idx_id=1611&uid=ny&idx_side=-55
Tollef Tollefson b. Fjelberg Hordaland living on Vestereide
father's name Tørris Tollefson
Tollef Torbjornson b. Fjelberg Hordaland living lægslem on Østereide
and the Tollef formerly from Lærdal, confirmed in Årdal #15.
Source information: Sogn og Fjordane county, Årdal, Parish register (official) nr. A 3 (1863-1886), Confirmation records 1869, page 168.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6949&idx_id=6949&uid=ny&idx_side=-153
Jackie M. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 04/12/2011 04:09:59 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 16:01:13
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| Too many possibilities and uncertaincies. Maybe the owner of this thread can shed some light? |
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johnboyy
Starting member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 17:22:03
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| First allow me to think everyone for the help you have provided, I am not sure what help you want or need, let me know what you need and I will do all I can. I was hoping finding his migrit information would be the big break I need in tracing this family branch.I honestly know the same as you, I have read and peiced as much as I could from the census, although 1890 census in minnesota were destroyed, I have peiced as much as I could, I too have the same discepencies, two different abt birth years, (1849-1850) and 1852, and two different migrent years, 1870 and 1862. and best I can tell both wife with the same name, different middle names and different birth places. although I had not found any marrage records, birth records, or even death records for any member, I am looking for relatives in minnesota who might be able to help. to everyone I thank you very much, for your help and the links to info I had not found. I am working, only thing else I can add is he lived and owned land on the north east corner of decker lake, itasca county, third river township, minnesota. I have looked for anyone living in the area and so far have found nothing. I know in the 1950's my grandfathers mother was still living on the farm, but sence then I have no connection or idea. again thank you |
Thanks for everything, Johnboyy |
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