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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 27/05/2015 : 00:45:47
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Poul Poulsen, wife and children on Vangsakeren.
Poul Pettersen and Marit Nilsdatter is Pouls parents, see 1900 census for Tolga.
I think they sold Florhaug before 1900, perhaps for a fair price, they had no hurry, they lived on his parents farm.
I can not find the parents 1910.
Just a thought; They em. after his parents died.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 27/05/2015 09:55:55 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 01:54:36
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Ellen didn't give much or have much information about her great grandfather. From her description it sounds as if Jon Poulsen was not around for her grandfather's upbringing. It might go even further than that-- that her great grandparents were not even married or have any kind of formalized relationship. We don't know because, if Ellen knows, she hasn't specified.
One thing Ellen could do is count backward 9 months from her grandfather's birth date to get an actual date that Jon Poulsen was there--he had to be there-- and then compare to the schedules of the unit discussed in the book which is in Google books and see if John Florhaug's paternity at least possible.
Her great grandfather's age was given as 24 when her grandfather was born which lead her to think that John Paulsen Florhaug was the most possible of the 3 John Paulsens found in the 1900 Norwegian census. That was why he was being discussed.
Otherwise it might be one of the other Jon Poulsens or somebody else entirely.
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ellenand
New on board
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 04:54:08
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Thank you to everyone who has taken time to reply and research. I'm sorry to waste anyone's time. I had not had access to my family's records for a few years, I was convinced my Grandfather was born in 1918. In fact from looking at the record now, I can see he was born November 1919. It seems that this may have been a rabbit trail. I'm glad I double checked, apologies for any hopes raised.
Ellen
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Ellen didn't give much or have much information about her great grandfather. From her description it sounds as if Jon Poulsen was not around for her grandfather's upbringing. It might go even further than that-- that her great grandparents were not even married or have any kind of formalized relationship. We don't know because, if Ellen knows, she hasn't specified.
One thing Ellen could do is count backward 9 months from her grandfather's birth date to get an actual date that Jon Poulsen was there--he had to be there-- and then compare to the schedules of the unit discussed in the book which is in Google books and see if John Florhaug's paternity at least possible.
Her great grandfather's age was given as 24 when her grandfather was born which lead her to think that John Paulsen Florhaug was the most possible of the 3 John Paulsens found in the 1900 Norwegian census. That was why he was being discussed.
Otherwise it might be one of the other Jon Poulsens or somebody else entirely.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 13:38:23
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Okay so that takes John Florhaug off the table as he was dead sometime before your grandfather was conceived.
In your first post, you were asking for information about sailor's records. On your grandfather's birth certificate, not the index listing, is his father's occupation listed as sailor? Leith is a shipping/fishing center?
Broadening up the research category to any whose first name contains "Jo", whose last name starts "Pauls" born in 1895 finds a few but only this one listed with a sea / fishing occupation in 1910:
Jonas Paulsen 18.01.1895 Nordre Vaagsø s ug fisker Nordre Vaagsø: Fretheim Vedvik (gaard) 01.12.1910 Folketelling 1910 for 1440 Nord-Vågsøy herred
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JeanFlor
Starting member
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 21:03:57
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No problem, Ellen. I felt I had to follow up, but was doubtful anyway. On the up side, you've eliminated a possibility - and I've gained some new records I didn't have. Good luck on your search. If you really want to know & don't mind spending some money, you could join Ancestry & do a DNA test. It 'might' produce some results that could be helpful. Thankfully there are sites like this with very knowledgeable people.
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Originally posted by ellenand
Thank you to everyone who has taken time to reply and research. I'm sorry to waste anyone's time. I had not had access to my family's records for a few years, I was convinced my Grandfather was born in 1918. In fact from looking at the record now, I can see he was born November 1919. It seems that this may have been a rabbit trail. I'm glad I double checked, apologies for any hopes raised.
Ellen
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Ellen didn't give much or have much information about her great grandfather. From her description it sounds as if Jon Poulsen was not around for her grandfather's upbringing. It might go even further than that-- that her great grandparents were not even married or have any kind of formalized relationship. We don't know because, if Ellen knows, she hasn't specified.
One thing Ellen could do is count backward 9 months from her grandfather's birth date to get an actual date that Jon Poulsen was there--he had to be there-- and then compare to the schedules of the unit discussed in the book which is in Google books and see if John Florhaug's paternity at least possible.
Her great grandfather's age was given as 24 when her grandfather was born which lead her to think that John Paulsen Florhaug was the most possible of the 3 John Paulsens found in the 1900 Norwegian census. That was why he was being discussed.
Otherwise it might be one of the other Jon Poulsens or somebody else entirely.
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JeanFlor
Starting member
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Posted - 28/05/2015 : 22:05:33
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Kåre - Paul emigrated in 1901 using the name Paul Paulsen Vangsakeren - but I could not find when his wife and children came. So thank you for that record - son Peder was my husband's grandfather.
Paul's father, Paul Petersen Florhaug followed in 1905. Family records say that Paul Petersen Florhaug's wife, Marit Nilsdatter died 10 May 1902 in Norway - so it follows you would not find them in the 1910 Census.
I know this is not the proper forum, but I was wondering if you could search for Marit's death record? I've tried & tried, but cannot find anything. I do not do well with the Norwegian handwritten church/parish records. I'm not sure if this is helpful, but Marit's father was Nils Ingvaldsen Røe born 1810 in Tynset. Her mother was Sara Embretsdatter Aaseng born 1812 in Vingelen. Both Nils & Sara are buried in the cemetery at Brydalen Church.
Thank you for your time.
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Em. to Amerika from Tolga, down right page, November 1904 #1-2-3-4.
"Gardbrukerkone" Farmers wife Ingeborg Jensdatter Florhaug, Vangsaker and 3 children; Jon Paulsen Florhaug 1893, Peder Paulsen Florhaug 1896 and Marit Paulsdatter Florhaug 1900.
The father Paul Paulsen/Poul Poulsen must have left earlier or was coming later
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/05/2015 : 22:13:42
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Death of Marit Nilsdatter 10 May 1902 (see last entry left-hand page):
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Hedmark fylke, Tolga i Tolga, Klokkerbok nr. 7 (1878-1919), Døde og begravede 1902, side 157.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/05/2015 : 00:18:21
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Originally posted by JaneC
Death of Marit Nilsdatter 10 May 1902 (see last entry left-hand page):
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Hedmark fylke, Tolga i Tolga, Klokkerbok nr. 7 (1878-1919), Døde og begravede 1902, side 157.
And she was born on farm Eidet and died of Asthma.
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JeanFlor
Starting member
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Posted - 29/05/2015 : 03:09:08
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Thank you Jane! I have spent hours looking for this record. I am extremely frustrated that I am so inept in searching this database! I am going to use your information & go back and try and understand where I made my mistake.
Kåre I SO appreciate the translation. I first was notified of Jane's response - and that was my next question....I didn't understand all of what the record said. So the word 'begravet' means she was 'buried' on Mai 23rd. What does the 2nd Mai 23 mean? I tried putting every spelling (jordfoestet?) I could think of into my translator, but it didn't work. Is there any website you know I could search for where she is buried? I don't expect you to look - just wanted to know.
Finally my biggest brickwall. Other people on Norwegian Heritage have tried to help solve this mystery with no results. So if anyone ever has some time, I (and several people in the U.S.) are trying to find out who Simen Aaseng was in the following birth record of Julia Simensdatter (#20) born 29 Jun 1890. Julia immigrated to the U.S. & married. Julia's daughter just died last year at the age of 93. I would love if someone could help her granddaughter (I'm related) solve this 'history mystery' - so if any of you have some time....it would be much appreciated. Not expecting anything, but thought another set of researchers might have more luck.
Thank you all.
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JeanFlor
Starting member
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Posted - 29/05/2015 : 04:59:50
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I was wrong - the topic was researched on DIS-Norge. I've done as you suggested Looking for Simen Johannesen Aaseng born 1868 under 'General Genealogy'. Appreciate it!
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Jean you might want to start your own topic or search for and post to the "old" Norwayheritage topic.
The options to start a new topic are at the bottom of the viewing page.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/05/2015 : 09:32:37
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Originally posted by JeanFlor
Thank you Jane! I have spent hours looking for this record. I am extremely frustrated that I am so inept in searching this database! I am going to use your information & go back and try and understand where I made my mistake.
Kåre I SO appreciate the translation. I first was notified of Jane's response - and that was my next question....I didn't understand all of what the record said. So the word 'begravet' means she was 'buried' on Mai 23rd. What does the 2nd Mai 23 mean? I tried putting every spelling (jordfoestet?) I could think of into my translator, but it didn't work. Is there any website you know I could search for where she is buried? I don't expect you to look - just wanted to know.
Thank you all.
Jordfestet/Jordfestelse means the Christian ceremony where the priest put soil on the coffin.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 29/05/2015 09:35:09 |
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Norwegian Merchant Navy Seaman records pre 1920
