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SandraSeverson
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 21:48:29
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Looking for information on Anders (Andrew) Severson born abt. 1817 in Norway. Lived in Scandinavia, Waupaca, Wi. Don't know where he lived after 1860 census in Wisconsin. May have moved to Minnesota. Had several children, one of which was Ole Andrew Severson.
Post correction: Lived in Mt. Morris, Waushara County in 1860 |
Edited by - SandraSeverson on 06/03/2012 18:17:13 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 22:38:57
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How do you know he lived in Scandinavia, Waupaca, Wi? I couldn't find any Anders (Andrew) Severson born abt. 1817 in Norway there... What was the names of his other children? When was Ole Andrew Severson born? Do you have any name of his wife?
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 22:55:19
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Here is one of the few possibilities. Name is Andrew Seversen, born in Norway abt 1815 with son Ole. As Jan Peter stated no one found in Waupaca County that fits.
1850 United States Federal Census Name: Andrew Seversen Age: 35 Birth Year: abt 1815 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1850: Deerfield, Dane, Wisconsin Gender: Male Family Number: 1757 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Seversen 35 Anna Seversen 26 Knute Seversen 8 Ole Seversen 5
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 23:02:48
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Or perhaps this Seveson, born in Norway, abt 1817. I think we will need to know a little more to separate out the various Sevesons, with son Ole.
1850 United States Federal Census Name: Andras Severson Age: 33 Birth Year: abt 1817 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1850: Windsor, Dane, Wisconsin Gender: Male Family Number: 147 Household Members: Name Age Andras Severson 33 Martha Severson 20 Sever Severson 0 Oliver Oleson 38 Corra Oleson 27 Ole Oleson 7 Betsey Oleson 4 Ann Oleson 3 Nelson Oleson 2 John Oleson 0 Christina Oleson 33
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 23:14:53
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Possible last names in Norway: Anders Syversen, Siversen, Sivertsen, Siursen, Sjursen b. ca 1817.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 23:28:50
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Waupaca did not become a county in Wisconsin until 1851, so the earliest census for it is 1860. There were 32 people in Waupaca born in 1817 +/- 2 in the 1860 US Census. None of them named Seversen or Severson or even close. The nearest person to your description in 1860 is the following. Waushura is a county next to Waupaca. This may be the same family shown above from the 1850 US Census from Dane County.
1860 United States Federal Census Name: Andrew Severson Age in 1860: 43 Birth Year: abt 1817 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1860: Mount Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin Gender: Male Post Office: Wautoma Value of real estate: Household Members: Name Age Andrew Severson 43 Martha Severson 30 Ola Severson 14 Sever Severson 11 Caroline Severson 9 Elling Severson 7 John Severson 4 Christiana Severson 2 Inga Jen Stoler 62
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Kċarto
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 23:42:42
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Is this the family you are looking for? Link
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SandraSeverson
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 17:38:09
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Correction for Andrew Severson. In Mt. Morris, Waushara County, WI in 1860 census. Wife Martha.
Children: Ole Sever Caroline Elling John Christiana
Last person in census: Inger Jen Stoler
In 1850 census, Dane County Sever was just born. I think Ole(b: 1846 in Norway) was an older brother to Sever but Ole is not listed in 1850 census |
Edited by - SandraSeverson on 06/03/2012 18:15:05 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 18:22:49
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Your ancestors are from Sogndal, Sogn & Fjordane
Andrew Severson = Anders Sjurson Hundere. Parents: Sjur Johannessen Hundere & Kari Andersdatter Wife Martha Severson = Martha Ellingsdatter Fladland. Parents: Elling Olsen Fladland & Kari Andersdatter
Anders Sjurson Hundere, born April 29, 1817 in Sogndal,Sogn, Norway; died September 17, 1894 in Zumbrota, Goodhue Co, MN. He was the son of 28. Sjur Hundere. He married 15. Martha Ellingsdatter Fladland 1847 in Dane Co, Wisconsin. Martha Ellingsdatter Fladland, born January 15, 1830 in Norway; died June 09, 1904 in Zumbrota, Goodhue Co, MN. She was the daughter of 30. Elling Olsen Fladland and 31. Kari Selseng Andersdatter.
See your family history here.
Elling Severson (1853-1930)
Christening record for Anders Sjurson Hundere. Born 29 Apr 1817 Source: Sogn og Fjordane county, Sogndal, Parish register (official) nr. A 9 (1809-1821), Chronological list 1817, page 97. Christening record for Martha Ellingsdatter Fladland. Born 29 Jan 1830 (The family history say Jan 15) Source: Sogn og Fjordane county, Sogndal, Parish register (official) nr. A 10 (1821-1838), Birth and baptism records 1830, page 45.
Children of Anders Hundere and Martha Fladland: i. Sver Anderson Severson, born November 26, 1849 in Wisconsin; died December 15, 1923; married Mathea Nelson 1882; born March 15, 1855; died June 16, 1943. ii. Kari Andersdatter Fladland, born August 09, 1851 in Waushara Co, Wisconsin; died July 16, 1943 in MN; married Ole T. Berg June 20, 1872; born Abt. 1843 in Norway; died February 22, 1915 in MN. iii. Elling Anderson Severson, born October 29, 1853 in Wi; died December 21, 1930; married Jennie Lee February 03, 1880; died Unknown. iv. Olaf Johannes Anderson Fladland, born March 03, 1856; died Unknown. v. Karen Christine Andersdatter Fladland, born June 21, 1858 in Washara, Wisconsin; died March 01, 1938 in Grafton, ND; married George Nicolai Paulson December 28, 1882 in Lands Lutheran Church, Zumbrota, Minnesota. vi. Peder Andreas Anderson Fladland, born January 23, 1861; died February 08, 1953; married Birgit Strand June 20, 1891; died February 20, 1911. vii. Jens Anderson Fladland, born September 27, 1863; died December 19, 1949; married Jennie Linn Person October 24, 1895; died April 30, 1949. viii. Christi Andersdatter Fladland, born February 28, 1866; died November 15, 1940; married Andrew Matson November 24, 1894; born May 30, 1865 in Romerike, Norway; died June 04, 1941. ix. Martina Andersdatter Fladland, born July 23, 1868 in Goodhue Co, MN; died March 26, 1891; married Andrew Swanson; died May 14, 1916. x. Johanne Andersdatter Fladland, born February 17, 1873 in Goodhue Co, MN; died March 10, 1873 in Goodhue Co, MN. xi. Peder Nicholas Andeson Fladland, born July 04, 1875; died December 1923 in Goodhue Co, MN.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 06/03/2012 18:29:19 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 18:42:37
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Exellent finding Jan Peter.
Photo of farm Hundere in Sogndal
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 18:52:59
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Census-1860 for Mount Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin Andrew Severson 43 = Anders Sjurson Hundere, born 29 Apr 1817 in Sogndal, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway Martha Severson 30 = Martha Ellingsdatter Fladland, born 29 Jan 1830 in Sogndal, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway Ola Severson 14 Sever Severson 11 = Siver Anderson Severson, born Nov 26, 1849 in Wisconsin Caroline Severson 9 = Kari Andersdatter Severson, born Aug 09, 1851 in Wisconsin Elling Severson 7 = Elling Anderson Severson, born Oct 29, 1853 in Wisconsin John Severson 4 = Olaf Johannes Severson, born Mar 03, 1856 in Wisconsin Christiana Severson 2 = Karen Christine Severson, born Jun 21, 1858 in Wisconsin
Census-1880 for Pine Island, Goodhue, Minnesota Andrew Severson M 63 Margaret Severson F 50 Sever Severson M 30 = Siver Anderson Severson, born Nov 26, 1849 in Wisconsin Allen Severson M 26 = Elling Anderson Severson, born Oct 29, 1853 in Wisconsin John Severson M 24 = Olaf Johannes Severson, born Mar 03, 1856 in Wisconsin Christina Severson F 22 = Karen Christine Severson, born Jun 21, 1858 in Wisconsin Andrew Severson M 19 = Peder Andreas Severson, born Jan 23, 1861 James Severson M 16 = Jens Anderson Severson, born Sep 27, 1863 Christa Severson F 14 = Christi Andersdatter Severson, born Feb 28, 1866 Martha Severson F 11 = Martina Andersdatter Severson, born Jul 23, 1868 in Goodhue Co, MN Peter Severson M 5 = Peder Nicholas Andeson Severson, born Jul 04, 1875
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Kċarto
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 22:07:07
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The whole Fladland family em. April 1.1844.
The parents Elling Olsen Fladland and Kari Andersdatter with children; Ole 16, Martha 14, Kari 12, Christi 9 and Peder 2, see right page #7-13
Dep. port was Bergen on ship Ĝrnen (The Eagle), only 13 of the passengers are recorded, none from the Fladland family, link
Note Marthas brother Peder age 2, he participated in the civil war, see here
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Kċarto
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 23:28:12
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Oldest of Marthas siblings Ole Ellingsen Fladland age 14 when he em. married a widow, Lukris Nilsdatter in 1856 (her 1. husband Tosten Ingebrigtsen from Sogndal and two sons died in Chicago probably of cholera 1855) They settled down in Koshkonong Prairie and got six children, link. Picture of Lukris and Ole taken 1895 here
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Edited by - Kċarto on 06/03/2012 23:43:45 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 23:54:54
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quote: Originally posted by Kċarto
The whole Fladland family em. April 1.1844.
Dep. port was Bergen on ship Ĝrnen (The Eagle), only 13 of the passengers are recorded, none from the Fladland family, Note Marthas brother Peder age 2, he participated in the civil war, see Kċre
Naeseth Norwegian Immigrants Volume II identifies 109 Norwegians on Ĝrnen arriving in New York on 1 Aug 1844, 60 days from Bergen.
Anders Sjurson is in the same Volume as arriving on the Juno in New York on 18 June 1846, 52 days out from Bergen. In the text on Anders it says, he and his family moved from Mt. Morris, Waushara Co, Wisc. in 1863 to Goodhue county, Minnesota. He died 17 Sept 1894 and both he and his wife are buried at Lands Lutheran in Goodhue county. They had 11 children. One of the sources is George Flom History of Norwegian Immigration to America, 1909. Flom's history is, I think, in Googlebooks and you might also look in www,dalbydata.com
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SandraSeverson
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Posted - 07/03/2012 : 01:37:49
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I don't see the son Ole Andrew Severson in the post from jwiborg. The post that gives the family history on Mar 6 at 18:22:49..Ole was born in Norway June 1846 to Anders Severson and Margaret. He appears to be the older brother of Elling. Maybe I am not understanding the difference in names. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/03/2012 : 03:50:25
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quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
Census-1860 for Mount Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin Ola Severson 14
Okay, who is this Ole Severson? Where / when was he born?
Trouble is, if he was actually born in 1846 to Marith Ellingsdtr in America, it would be physically impossible for him to be the son of Anders Sjurson, who was on the ocean for 52 days before landing at New York on 18 June 1846.
Likewise, if this Ole was born in June 1846 in Norway to Anders Sjurson, it means his mother is someone other than Marith Ellingsdtr since she came US in 1844.
What does the poster know about Ole Andrew Severson?
I just looked through about 200 or so Ole Severson from the 1900 US Federal census at familysearch.org and this one is the only one listed as born June 1846. However, another possible interpretation of the last name is Swenson. Take a look at the actual schedule not just the index to it line 39:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11594-186719-24?cc=1325221
Is this the Ole Andrew Severson you are looking for? It says he came in 1854 from Norway.
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Edited by - jkmarler on 07/03/2012 04:17:02 |
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