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davidlasch
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Posted - 19/03/2012 :  17:17:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can find Ludvig (Karl Ludvig) Arnesen in the 1900 census but not in the 1910 census? Family charts show him dying in 1913 and Andrine dying in 1912. I have never been able to find any records to support that. Now I am thinking maybe they died before 1910 since they do not show up in the census.

What parish should I look at to find their death records? Any other clues anyone can suggest would be appreciated!

thanks

Census year: 1900
Municipality: Kristiania
Municipality number: 0301
Street name: Calmeyergade 15

Ludvig Arnesen hf g MøbelSnedker for mestere 1835 Fr.stad
Andrine Arnesen hm g Hustru 1834 Kristiania
Jenny Arnesen d ug Datter 1870 Drammen
Alfred Arnesen s ug Fyrbøder Tilsøs 1875 Drammen
Agnes Arnesen d ug Kassererske v/Kolonialf. 1878 Fr.stad
Christian Kallum el ug Hdlsbetj. v/Kolonialf. 1876 Moss
Gudmund Sletner el ug Hdlsbetj. v/Kolonialf. 1877 Urskaug

David

jkmarler
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Posted - 19/03/2012 :  17:55:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the search engine for a database of Oslo headstones:
http://www.begravdeioslo.no/sok

Good Luck
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davidlasch
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Posted - 19/03/2012 :  18:15:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you. No luck on them but I am sure I will spend lots of time searching this data base!

David
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/03/2012 :  18:26:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you looked at the Norway Burials database at www.familysearch.org?
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peder
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Posted - 19/03/2012 :  19:54:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
another site to check for graves

http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/index.php
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davidlasch
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Posted - 19/03/2012 :  19:58:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks - lots to check but these folks just don't want me to know where and when they died! They do not seem to come up in any data base for their deaths.

David
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eibache
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Posted - 19/03/2012 :  20:15:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karl Ludvig is in the 1910 census, living with Andrine in Trondhjemsveien 19.

Ludvig died at Rikshospitalet Oct 9 1913 and was burried at Vor Frelsers Gravlund, see #111.

Andrine died April 20 1912 and was also burried at Vor Frelsers Gravlund, see #66.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 19/03/2012 20:26:59
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eibache
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Posted - 19/03/2012 :  20:38:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You probaly have Carl Ludvigs birth/bapt dates, but anyhow, here it is #24.
His parents carpenter Johannes Arnesen and Kari Syversdatter.

Einar
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davidlasch
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Posted - 19/03/2012 :  21:49:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow thank you so much! Seems I have turned over so many stones and now I finally have the dates. I appreciate every ones help and the great links and websites. I will be using them!

David

David
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davidlasch
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Posted - 20/03/2012 :  13:28:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK now that we know where they are buried is there a way to find out the plot # they are in and if there is a headstone? I have searched for info on the cemetery but can not find information on an office. The cemetery looks quite nice would love to visit someday!

David
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eibache
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Posted - 20/03/2012 :  15:34:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You may ask here.

Einar
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davidlasch
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Posted - 20/03/2012 :  15:53:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you! I appreciate the contact info and will send off an email to them to see what further information is available.


David
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davidlasch
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Posted - 02/05/2012 :  18:09:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just received this reply from the cemetery - great information!

I have recieved some more information regarding the Arnesen grave from the manager of Vår Frelser's graveyard. The gravenumber I gave you in the last mail was not correct. The correct number is 01.015.03.023.
The grave was created in 1878 by restaurateur Kjølseth.
The first person who was buried here was the wife of Ludvig Arnesen (carpenter) - Karen Arnesen (71 years) on 17.09.1878.
Next was madame Marie C. Kjølseth (41 years) on 16.06.1885.
Wife Andrine Arnesen (71 years) was buried on 26.04.1912.
Carpenter Ludvig Arnesen (78 years) was buried on 14.10.1913.
Mrs. Elise Arnesen (66 years), born 06.02.1876 and died 06.02.1942. Buried on 10.02.1942
Engineer Alfred Arnesen (85 years), born 17.12.1875 and died 05.05.1960. Buried on 17.06.1960.

I think the Karen Arnesen who died in 1878 must be the mother of Ludvig who died in 1913. I have her as a Kari Syversdatter who married Johannes Arnesen but have never been able to find her birth records. Hopefully her death record exists and it will have that long awaited clue! Where should I be looking for her death record? Not much to go on from this but it seems like a good start.

thanks

David

David
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eibache
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Posted - 02/05/2012 :  18:16:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karen Arnesen (71 years) on 17.09.1878 - burrial record is #46 on right page.

Einar
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davidlasch
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Posted - 02/05/2012 :  18:27:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you! too bad there is not a lot of information in the record. What is the name of the town she was born? I am assuming the column next to her year of birth is where she was born?

David
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davidlasch
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Posted - 02/05/2012 :  19:08:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
is there anything in the record that says she is a widow or not? I do not see the word Enke so I am am thinking her husband lived longer?

David
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