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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  06:56:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In my records , this person:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8573&idx_id=8573&uid=ny&idx_side=-160
3rd complete record on left
has been identified as the same person in this marriage record:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8574&idx_id=8574&uid=ny&idx_side=-196
7th down second column on left
This no longer makes sense to me, but I can find no information about the Berte Carine of the birth record in places like the 1801 census or Berthe Johannesd for that matter either so I must not know where to look.
The person from my lineage is Marthe Knuds:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8574&idx_id=8574&uid=ny&idx_side=-161
2nd on right

jkmarler
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  09:26:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Might be her:

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=10&filnamn=f1801&gardpostnr=17316&personpostnr=288650&merk=288650#ovre
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  09:35:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks - looks worth exploring - wonder why this didn't come up when I searched on "berthe" "johan"
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  11:28:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The parents of Marthe Knudsdatter were married June 28 1812, see 7th record in 2nd column.
Berthe Johannesdatter came from Wahl.

Marthes brother Hans, was baptized at home March 13 1813, see top record right page.

A sister Anne, was baptized at home March 23 1816, see 3rd record on right page.

No sign of mothers given names being Berthe Carine.
Einar
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  12:28:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Knud Hansen Docka (Dokka) came from Jondalen north in Kongsberg and I belive Wahl is the same as Hvċl, a farm in Sandsvĉr.

Kċre
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Kċarto
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  13:26:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Might be her:

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=10&filnamn=f1801&gardpostnr=17316&personpostnr=288650&merk=288650#ovre


This Berte Carine died 1801 (mentioned in an earlier topic, she was buried with her two siblings in the same grave).

Kċre
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  14:07:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kċarto

quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Might be her:

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=10&filnamn=f1801&gardpostnr=17316&personpostnr=288650&merk=288650#ovre


This Berte Carine died 1801 (mentioned in an earlier topic, she was buried with her two siblings in the same grave).

Kċre


Everything old is new again!
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Kċarto
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  17:21:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are right :-)
quote:
Originally posted by davidcarlsen

In my records , this person:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8573&idx_id=8573&uid=ny&idx_side=-160
3rd complete record on left
has been identified as the same person in this marriage record:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8574&idx_id=8574&uid=ny&idx_side=-196
7th down second column on left


The first Berte Carine´s father was John Olsen Stordalen.

The 2. Berthe Johannesen who maried Knud Hansen Dokka was from Wahl.
Not sure but I doubt she was John Stordalens daughter.

She is a mystery, the Wahl name tells that her father was Johannes Wahl.

Is info ab. Knud Hansen Docka of interest for you?

Kċre
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vivi
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Norway
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Posted - 13/04/2012 :  01:16:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

There is a Birte Johannesdatter living at the farm Wahl in Lier in the 1801 census.
She is single and 26 years old.
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=7&filnamn=f18010626&gardpostnr=12&personpostnr=393&merk=393#ovre
Vivi
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davidcarlsen
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Posted - 13/04/2012 :  08:20:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for jogging my memory on this . A lot of work was done on this about a year ago and I need to update my records
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