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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  00:03:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are all the pre 1900 Moe / Moen marriages at the Traill County, webpage at www.usgenweb.com:

Mo, Peder Janius Torkelson, Carolina Levie 26 Jun 1890 B. 120
Moe, Christian Westland, Bertha O. 31 Mar 1891 1 56
Moe, Einar M. Johnson, Kaja 12 Nov 1889 B. 92
Moe, Elyseeus P. Olson, Anne 05 May 1885 B 76
Moe, John Johnson, Emma 20 Apr 1892 1 171
Moe, John A. Groven, Inga 29 Aug 1896 2 256
Moe, Martin J. Skatvold, Annie 06 Apr 1899 2 457
Moen, Albert Braaten, Seri Mathea 29 Jun 1898 2 407
Moen, Arne H. Bryson, Nora T. 24 Mar 1897 2 304
Moen, Christian H. Bergum, Lina N. 07 Jun 1894 2 47
Moen, Hans O. Lokken, Karn J. 02 Jul 1898 2 406
Moen, Iver I. Ulstad, Anna 20 Dec 1890 1 38
Moen, Ole Solberg, Lina 19 Oct 1897 2 348
Moen, Peter Johnson, Constance 21 Jun 1899 3 11

Perhaps they went by Jenson instead and how interesting there is one boy in the family with the first initial of A. The John L. Moen from the 1900 census' wife's name is Caroline...
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  00:03:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
But here is the link to him in 1900 census:


But, Jackie I had him in Duluth in 1900, see my earlier post page 7. I think this is your John L Moe in 1910 still living in North Dakota. Also he arrived in 1874 not 1881.

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: John L Mar
[John L Moe]
[John L Mac]
Age in 1910: 56
Birth Year: 1854
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Garfield, Traill, North Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1874
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Caroline Mar
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  00:17:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

quote:
But here is the link to him in 1900 census:


But, Jackie I had him in Duluth in 1900, see my earlier post page 7. I think this is your John L Moe in 1910 still living in North Dakota. Also he arrived in 1874 not 1881.




Sorry have deleted my earlier incorrect post. The 1885 census is still not available.
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  00:19:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Perhaps they went by Jenson instead and how interesting there is one boy in the family with the first initial of A.


There is an Anton Jensen in the 1900 US Census. It states that he was born Jan 1865. Anton Jensen brother to John Moe was born Oct 31, 1864. Not an exact match. Walsh and Trail Counties are close but not side by side.

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Anton Jenson
Age: 35
Birth Date: Jan 1865
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Grafton, Walsh, North Dakota
[Walsh]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1890
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Nellie Jenson
Marriage Year: 1893
Years Married: 7
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  00:37:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think this one might do better. In 1900 there are 2 men who in Hillsboro, Traill County, North Dakota whose last names are Overmoe. There is an Anton Overmoe b. Oct 1864 who came to US in 1871 and Torger Overmoe b. Nov 1853 who came in 1876. Anton is single and Torger is married with large family.

Here is a link the 1900 census page with both Anton and Torger:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11052-99190-38?cc=1325221

Here is Anton Overmoe's death listing in the North Dakota Public Death Index:

OVERMOE, ANTON J
died 12/05/1936 Traill
MALE 72 Years
born 10/24/1864
resident of North Dakota Traill

Here is Anton's baptism #99:
Source information: Oppland county, Øyer, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1858-1874), Birth and baptism records 1864, page 58.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8929&idx_id=8929&uid=ny&idx_side=-63


Here are Overmoe marriages pre1900 from the Traill page:
Overmoe, Lars Jensen Kittelson, Anna 19 Jan 1884 B 92
Overmoen, Jens L. Klemetson, Ragnhild 04 Nov 1889 B. 91
Overmoen, Johan J. Faa, Borghild B. 02 Apr 1897 2 305
Overmoen, Lars J. Faae, Ellen B. 22 Jun 1893 1 288

Edited by - jkmarler on 10/05/2012 01:13:55
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  01:23:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, this all hinges on some bizarre things.

Could Lars Baardseng the father of Johanne Larsdtr, the mother of Mathea Pedersdtr b. Faaberg be the same man as the Lars who was the father of Jens Larssen Øvremoen b. Øier and possibly the Lars who was the father of Kristian Larsen b. Faaberg?
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  01:24:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a Family Tree on Ancestry.com for Torger Overmoe. No parents listed for Torger, however his wife is listed as Agnethe Jensdatter July 24, 1858, Decorah Iowa. Her parents are listed as Jens Andersen Jahr, born Jan 3, 1830 in of course Øyre. His wife is listed as Kari Stenersdatter born Feb 7, 1830 in Øyre. I did look up the birth record for Jens and the Family Tree is accurate. He is #623.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9274&idx_id=9274&uid=ny&idx_side=-59
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  01:29:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by lyndal40

]Her parents are listed as Jens Andersen Jahr, born Jan 3, 1830 in of course Øyre. His wife is listed as Kari Stenersdatter born Feb 7, 1830 in Øyre.[quote]

Jens Anderson is Anton Overmoe's landlord in the 1900 census.

Edited by - jkmarler on 10/05/2012 01:30:02
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  01:31:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kept looking and found another Family Tree with ancestors for Torger. They are Jens Larsen Vremoen born Sept 23, 1830, and Johanne Torgersdatter Botterud born Dec 14, 1825 in Botterud.

Torger is the fourth person down in the 1865 Census posted earlier. Here it is again.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0521&kenr=001&bnr=0114&lnr=00

So Torger is John Moe's brother.

Edited by - AntonH on 10/05/2012 01:35:52
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  01:35:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes and here they are leaving thru Oslo:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=7&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=43578&merk=43578#ovre
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  01:40:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But I am still not understanding how all these people from Øyre are connected to Hans Olausen Aasen.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  01:48:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Well, this all hinges on some bizarre things.

Could Lars Baardseng the father of Johanne Larsdtr, the mother of Mathea Pedersdtr b. Faaberg be the same man as the Lars who was the father of Jens Larssen Øvremoen b. Øier and possibly the Lars who was the father of Kristian Larsen b. Faaberg?



1.They have some slight connection to the name Botterud (which might be the Batterud in Hans Olaus. Aasen's arrival record.)
2. There is someone in the family whose first name starts with A. (Anton)
3. They are exactaly at Hillsboro, N.D. at exactly the right time.

Here is Jens Larssen Øvremoen's baptism #699:
Source information: Oppland county, Øyer, Parish register (official) nr. 4 (1824-1841), Birth and baptism records 1830, page 121-122.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9274&idx_id=9274&uid=ny&idx_side=-65

His father is Lars Jensson. Could he be the same man as Lars Baardseng who was Johanne Larsdtr b. 1812 Faaberg
mother of Mathea Pedersdtr b. 1855's father?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  02:08:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay, I think this is Johanne Larsdtr b. 1812's confirmation. The farm name is written as Skaarset not Baardseng, #22:

Source information: Oppland county, Fåberg in Fåberg, Parish register copy nr. 4 (1818-1837), Confirmation records 1827, page 502-503.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9277&idx_id=9277&uid=ny&idx_side=-252
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  02:11:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I had to make an Excel Spreadsheet to understand it, but yes that would make Anton Overmoen (nee Botterud) the uncle of Hans Olausen Aasen. Now I guess we need to gather enough proof of that relationship to become comfortable with it.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  02:20:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, slim pickins'. There is a Lars Olsen on Skaarsæt in 1801:

Christians Faaberg Faaberg Skaarsæt 0524
"192328 Lars Olsen 41 Ugivt Sølvsmeed "
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