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AntonH
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 Posted - 10/05/2012 : 02:52:04
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| I also checked out Baardseng in 1801. One Lars Halvorsen age 5, possible would be 17 in 1812 but not very likely. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 : 02:55:39
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Well I had to make an Excel Spreadsheet to understand it, but yes that would make Anton Overmoen (nee Botterud) the uncle of Hans Olausen Aasen. Now I guess we need to gather enough proof of that relationship to become comfortable with it.
Yeah, but what's life without a "genealogical" adventure? |
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 : 03:12:37
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| Well, there was Johanne Olsd (in the confirmations post) but no Larsd I saw. Fortunately, the boys are on the left and the girls on the right... |
Edited by - jkmarler on 10/05/2012 03:16:06 |
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 : 03:33:58
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Going back to Johanne's baptismal, did you notice that mother's introduction record is not next to Johanne's entry (like most of the others on the page)? Clearly her folks are married (when you compare to the treatment for the 2 illegitimates at the bottom of the page.) The birth date is 12 or 18 Jul which is different than the b.d. in the confirmation record--pehaps confirmation is in error or maybe not the Johanne?
Only one Lars Jensen in Faaberg--very interesting. Wonder about Lars Jenson in Øyer? |
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/05/2012 : 03:36:48
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| Only three, two age 3 and one age 1. Even less likely. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/05/2012 : 04:42:24
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Jackie, I think this is what you have in mind for how Hans Olausen Aasen has an uncle named A Botterud. If I am off base here let me know.
Johanna Larsdatter b 1812 father is listed as Lars Baardseng no mother listed, In her confirmation her father is listed as Lars Skaarset
She is the Mother of Marhe Pettersdatter b jun 20 1855, who is the
Mother of Hans Olausen Aasen b 1882
Jens Larsen Overmoen b 1830 whose father is Lars Jensen (SAME PERSON AS Lars Baardseng?) and mother is Johanna Torgersdatter Botterud, They have a son Anton Jensen and move to Hillsboro, North Dakota where Anton Jensen lives and perhaps is referred to by Hans Olausen Aasen his nephew as A Botterud in Hillsboro North Dakota. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 : 06:36:01
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Jens Larsen Overmoen b 1830 whose father is Lars Jensen (SAME PERSON AS Lars Baardseng?).
Somewhat in a nutshell. Does Lars Jensen =Lars Baardseng?
Put another way Hans Olausen Aasen in 1905 has an uncle named A. Batterud at Hillsboro, North Dakota.
That could mean that EITHER his father Olaus Hansen has a full or half brotherOR his mother Marthe Pedersdtr has a full or half brother named A. Batterud at Hillsboro in1905.
That could also mean that EITHER his father Olaus Hansen has a full or half brother-in-law OR his mother Marthe Pedersdtr has a full or half brother-in-law named A.Batterud who lived in Hillsboro in 1905.
Additionally, that could mean Hans was going to a grand uncle --that is brother or brother-in-law to each of his grandparents--named A Batterud in Hillsboro in 1905.
The real trouble is that there doesn't appear to be anyone named A. Batterud in Hillsboro in 1900 or 1910 so the dance is to figure out which detail or fact is going to make the difference.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 : 11:26:28
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Here are the results from the 1885 census for the Ovremoen:
13-069-02 Larson, Jens 55 Head Farmer Norway Hillsboro Traill
13-069-03 Gunnerson, Hanna 41 Hired girl Housekeeper Norway Hillsboro Traill
13-069-04 Larson, Anton 20 Son Norway Hillsboro Traill
13-069-05 Larson, John 17 Son Norway Hillsboro Traill
13-069-06 Overmoen, Torger J. 32 Head Farmer Norway Hillsboro Traill
13-069-07 Overmoen, Agnete 27 Wife Housekeeper IA Hillsboro Traill
13-069-08 Overmoen, John 2 Son Dakota Hillsboro Traill
and this son in a different location in Traill:
13-070-47 Overmoen, Lars J. 34 Head Farmer Norway Traill
13-070-48 Overmoen, Annie 27 Wife Housekeeper Norway Traill
13-070-49 Overmoen, Tone 6 Daughter Norway Traill
13-070-50 Overmoen, Jul 8/12 Sept Son Dakota Traill
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AntonH
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Olathors
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 : 17:39:41
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Originally posted by lyndal40
the father of Jen Larsen Overmoen b Sept 22, 1830 a Lars Jensen Bagstad b May 19th, 1798, Øyre. Here is that birth record, first entry.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9272&idx_id=9272&uid=ny&idx_side=-83
That family probably corresponds to this family in the 1801 Census. One of the Lars Jensens I dismissed last night as being too young to be the father of Johanna b 1812.
Agreed, then the uncle search in connection with these folks is out of steam for right now.
Here is a Lars Jensen age 73 b. Faaberg living on Stor Berget in 1865. Maybe he is her Johanne's father?:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=5&filnamn=f60524&gardpostnr=353&personpostnr=2282&merk=2282#ovre
I did find one more child born to Lars on Baardseng Fridrich,
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Fåberg, Ministerialbok nr. 2 (1775-1818), Kronologisk liste 1814, side 582-583.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9276&idx_id=9276&uid=ny&idx_side=-295
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Olathors
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/05/2012 : 17:45:12
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[i]She uses the name Blomchild and has residence America. Has she been over once before?
That would seem likely but on the form at Ellis Island for this trip she is stamped as " Non-Immigrant Alien" which I take to mean just visiting. |
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Marie Aasen Blomshield Sherman
