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davidlasch
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jwiborg
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 Posted - 13/05/2012 : 01:20:27
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Yes, pleieson means foster child. His father remarried in 1864.
His 2nd wife was 22(!) yrs older than him, and Peter Emil must have died soon after. His new wife is a widow in the 1865-census
Marriage 1:
Peter Emil Thue & Andrine Halvorsen
Marriage Date: 17 Nov 1856, Vestre Aker, Oslo, Norway
Source: Oslo county, Vestre Aker, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1855-1877), Marriage records 1856, page 24.
Marriage 2:
Peter Emil Thue & Goro Tollefsdr
Marriage Date: 13 Jul 1864, Aamot, Hedmark, Norway
Source: Hedmark county, Åmot, Parish register (official) nr. 8 (1862-1875), Marriage records 1864, page 269.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/05/2012 : 01:35:18
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Peter Emil Thue fathered a son in 1866:
Carlot Peter Pedersen
Birth Date: 19 Apr 1866
Christening: 10 Jun 1866, Vaaler, Hedmark, Norway
Parents: Peter Emil Thue & Christiane Pedersdr
Illegitimate child
Source: Hedmark county, Våler, Parish register (official) nr. 1 (1849-1878), Birth and baptism records 1866, page 113.
This also looks like it could be his son:
Carsten Magnus Emilsen
Birth: 07 Jan 1864
Christening: 10 Apr 1864, Oslo Domkirke, Oslo, Akershus, Norway
Parents: Emil Thue & Nicoline Dahl
Illegitimate child
Source: Oslo county, Oslo Domkirke / Vår Frelsers menighet, Parish register (official) nr. 16 (1863-1871), Birth and baptism records 1864, page 58.
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davidlasch
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Posted - 13/05/2012 : 02:31:55
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Lots to look at thank you so much.
Confused about his 2nd wife being a widow in the 1865 census but him having a child with a different woman in 1866? |
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davidlasch
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Posted - 13/05/2012 : 02:35:49
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| In the birth record for Carlot - there is a word 2 words in front of Peter Emil's name that is crossed out (looks like Enken) and something is written there - not sure what it says - maybe it says he has died? |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/05/2012 : 02:47:29
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I think it says Enkem. Musikant, ie. widower, musician.
Could relate to his first wife Andrine Halvorsen. Widower is crossed out, since he was not a widower (anymore), but married to Goro since 1864.
Carlot Peter Pedersen is born Apr 1866, thus conceived about July 1865.
The 1865-census was done in January 1866.
Peter Emil Thue could thus have died between July 1865-January 1866.
Strange that he is not recorded as dead in the christening. Maybe they didn't know where he stayed....?
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davidlasch
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Posted - 13/05/2012 : 14:39:00
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| Thank you that helps. Do you think the word before Peter Emil's name is Musikant in Carston Magnus birth record and also the marriage records? That would really tie them all together. I keep trying to understand the old writing but just can't seem to get it. |
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davidlasch
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Posted - 13/05/2012 : 16:04:12
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Originally posted by davidlasch
Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Garnisonsmenigheten, Ministerialbok nr. 8 (1842-1859), Fødte og døpte 1857, side 229.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=611&idx_id=611&uid=ny&idx_side=-235
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060227071032.jpg
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His parents must have died I find him in the 1865 census listed as a pleieson? What does that mean - trying to translate and getting care son - thinking this must be like adopted son?
I lose him after the 1865 census. Can not find any brothers or sisters for him either or what happened to his parents.
thanks for any help here.
David
I found an old chart that has a note on it that says "Axel Thue - USA" thinking it must be this Axel -so maybe he moved to USA? |
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jwiborg
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davidlasch
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Posted - 13/05/2012 : 16:16:06
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| Thank you. Maybe he fits into the tree some other way. Thue seems to be an uncommon name? |
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davidlasch
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Posted - 14/05/2012 : 02:13:23
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Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Garnisonsmenigheten, Klokkerbok nr. 6 (1860-1880), Døde og begravede 1862, side 235.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=619&idx_id=619&uid=ny&idx_side=-245
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060227050430.jpg
#24 could be Peter Emil Thue's first wife? Would she have used his last name? same parish as their son was born in.
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Yes, pleieson means foster child. His father remarried in 1864.
His 2nd wife was 22(!) yrs older than him, and Peter Emil must have died soon after. His new wife is a widow in the 1865-census
Marriage 1:
Peter Emil Thue & Andrine Halvorsen
Marriage Date: 17 Nov 1856, Vestre Aker, Oslo, Norway
Source: Oslo county, Vestre Aker, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1855-1877), Marriage records 1856, page 24.
Marriage 2:
Peter Emil Thue & Goro Tollefsdr
Marriage Date: 13 Jul 1864, Aamot, Hedmark, Norway
Source: Hedmark county, Åmot, Parish register (official) nr. 8 (1862-1875), Marriage records 1864, page 269.
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eibache
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Posted - 14/05/2012 : 06:19:41
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The Andrine Thue who died in 1862 seems to the first wife of Peter Emil Thue.
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davidlasch
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Posted - 14/05/2012 : 14:25:03
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quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
Peter Emil Thue fathered a son in 1866:
Carlot Peter Pedersen
Birth Date: 19 Apr 1866
Christening: 10 Jun 1866, Vaaler, Hedmark, Norway
Parents: Peter Emil Thue & Christiane Pedersdr
Illegitimate child
Source: Hedmark county, Våler, Parish register (official) nr. 1 (1849-1878), Birth and baptism records 1866, page 113.
This also looks like it could be his son:
Carsten Magnus Emilsen
Birth: 07 Jan 1864
Christening: 10 Apr 1864, Oslo Domkirke, Oslo, Akershus, Norway
Parents: Emil Thue & Nicoline Dahl
Illegitimate child
Source: Oslo county, Oslo Domkirke / Vår Frelsers menighet, Parish register (official) nr. 16 (1863-1871), Birth and baptism records 1864, page 58.
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f60301&gardpostnr=392&personpostnr=11468&merk=11468#ovre
this looks to be Carsten in the 1865 census. His mothers last name is not Dahl but Larsdatter. Looks like his godparents had the last name of Larsen so this make sense probably.
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davidlasch
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Posted - 14/05/2012 : 14:28:57
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| I don't seem to be able to find any record of Carlot Peter after his birth or of Carsten after the 1865 census? |
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Axel Frederik Thue
