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norwaynut
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Posted - 26/05/2012 :  18:00:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Searching for Nils Enoksen and his parents (I believe) Enok Eriksen and wife Berta Nilsdtr Asmarvik. Came through Quebec port from Stavanger, Norway! Lorene
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/05/2012 :  18:27:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On norwayheritage there is a Niels Enoksen Selen on Hebe in 1865:

http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=737&ps=8649
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 26/05/2012 :  18:29:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
I belive Asmarvik is Asmervik in Rennesøy

Kåre
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/05/2012 :  18:48:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nils Enoksen was ca 38. when he em with the parents 1864 from dep. port Stavanger.
He was born on Sæhl in Rennseøy Sept. 13. 1826, bap. Nov. 5.

The parents were cottagers under Sæhl (Sel/Selen), see #381

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Edited by - Kåarto on 26/05/2012 18:52:13
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/05/2012 :  18:55:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The spelling is a little off but this is likely Nils arriving in Canada.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Niels Droksen Selen
Gender: Male
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Date of Arrival: 1865
Vessel: Hebe
Search Ship Database:
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Roll: C-4520
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/05/2012 :  19:37:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This looks like the family leaving from Stavanger, however the trip date is listed as 1864?

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=34&filnamn=STAV&gardpostnr=38338&merk=38338#ovre
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/05/2012 :  20:29:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Reg. the two names Sæhl/Sel and Asmarvik/Asmervik.
Origin of Asmervik is Asmundarvik coming from the norse mans name Asmundr; Asmunds vik / Asmunds bay.

Asmervik is located to Sørbø sub parish in Rennesøy, Sørbø church build ca 1150.

Enok Eriksen (Enoch Erischsen) 27 was from Sæl and Berthe Nilsdatter 24 was from Asmervig (Asmervik) when they married dec. 1. 1820, see couple #60

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Edited by - Kåarto on 26/05/2012 21:40:13
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/05/2012 :  23:03:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A candidate for Berthe Neilsdatter from the 1801 Census.

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Edited by - AntonH on 26/05/2012 23:21:58
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/05/2012 :  23:29:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probable baptism of Berthe. Right side of page, May 15th, 1796

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=15842&idx_id=15842&uid=ny&idx_side=-198
Edited by - AntonH on 26/05/2012 23:29:39
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/05/2012 :  00:26:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Confused !!
Berthe Nilsdatter died on Sæl as a widow April 18. 1862, see #10

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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/05/2012 :  00:44:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

This looks like the family leaving from Stavanger, however the trip date is listed as 1864?

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=34&filnamn=STAV&gardpostnr=38338&merk=38338#ovre


I always find the Stavanger list a bit befuddling. Does anyone on forum know what sources were used for family ref column?

Here is the image of the Nils Enoksen Selen's page at archivianet passenger list page. They categorize it as arriving 29 May 1865. Of course they don't have records from before 1865.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-119.02-e.php?sisn_id_nbr=14&page_sequence_nbr=1&interval=20&page_id_nbr=125&&PHPSESSID=ikv5q8anqlo1q1prq2bjldm386
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Hopkins
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Posted - 27/05/2012 :  00:51:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The family is listed in the Rennesøy bygdeboker (Vol. 2) on a 'plass' of the 'Sel' farm there known as "Beite". Page 650.

Nils is not listed in the publication but the church records above prove beyond all doubt that he should have been.

Enok Eriksson and Berta Nilsdtr had at least 8 children born to them and at least 3 or 4 of their sons emigrated to the USA.
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2012 :  09:17:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Enoch Erichsen Sæl and Berthe Nilsdatter Asmervig had the children
Birthe, born Febr 11 1821, #116
Erich, born March 1 1824, #203
Niels, born Sept 13 1826, #381
Serine, born Nov 28 1829, #344
Enoch, born July 10 1833, #573
John, born approx 1836, Conf 1851 #24
Berthe Christine , born July 28 1839, #45.
Einar
Edited by - eibache on 25/06/2012 21:59:32
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/05/2012 :  11:10:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins

The family is listed in the Rennesøy bygdeboker (Vol. 2) on a 'plass' of the 'Sel' farm there known as "Beite". Page 650.


Beite (Grazing) was a sub farm under Sæl, Enoks parents and a sister Wendel on a "plass" as cottagers under Sæl.
Enok Eriksen 8 is wrongspelled as Erik Eriksen (Erich Erichssen), link .

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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/05/2012 :  18:15:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think these are the brothers Enoch and John in the 1880 census. There is a son (of John) also named Enoch who turns up later in later census at Boyd, Nebraska:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MXVH-F12

Younger Enoch's sister Minnie's death in Illinois:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NQ34-67Q

Brother John E Sell's marriage record:
SELL, JOHN E HOUGAS, SARAH ANN 1863-03-11 C 2255 LA SALLE

Brother John E. Selle at www.findagrave.com:
www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=selle&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=16&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=84845723&df=all&" target="_blank">http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=selle&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=16&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=84845723&df=all&
Edited by - jkmarler on 27/05/2012 18:35:35
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norwaynut
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Posted - 25/06/2012 :  19:56:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm back on now! I thank all of you for the new information! I have been "poring" over "tons" of parish records for this family. Some is readable and some I can make out names and dates. I can't read Norwegian so only can follow along as much as I can. I haven't found another Niels with the parents listed as Enok and Berthe. I did find one other NIels but he was from the Dahle farm. I have gone bac in ancestry as far as Erik Eriksen and his wife Sissel and their four children--even following them down through descendancey almort to the 1900's. So there are some mysteries that I haven't been able to solve. Lorene
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