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wandahalvorson
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 Posted - 21/06/2012 : 18:12:44
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| Would love to find out info on Rasmus Stangeland, I have his birthdate as Dec 1852 and I think he was born in the Sund, Hordaland area. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/06/2012 : 18:46:57
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#78 Rasmus Nielsen
Birth: 30 Aug 1852, Stangeland, Sund, Hordaland, Norway
Parents: Niels Torkildsen & Malene Olsdatter
Spouse: Christina Hanson
Children:
Nora Nelson, Birth Apr 1880, Medary Twnshp, Minnehaha, Dakota Terr.
Alfred Stangeland, Birth <1882> , ,SD
Christine Stangeland, Birth <1884>, , SD
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Edited by - jwiborg on 21/06/2012 18:59:59 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/06/2012 : 20:01:24
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Rasmus parents were married June 24 1838, see #5.
Rasmus siblings:
Malene 1838,
Oline 1841,
Marie 1844,
Torkild 1846,
Ragnhilde 1850.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2012 : 21:18:57
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The real joy of this hobby is being able to do it yourself. You can! There are a number of excellent materials available online for your study and the number of Norwegian resources available online for research increases almost daily. Study, practice, enjoy!
Ancestors From Norway articles (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html)
Portal to Norway research guidance of LDS Family History Library (https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Norway)
Tips on Using Digitalarkivet (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html)
Norwegian census abbreviations (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/census_abbreviations.html)
Norwegian censuses on NHDC website, instructions included (http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)
FamilySearch has a large number of Norwegian births and marriages indexed (http://www.familysearch.org)
Help for translating many of your finds (http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm)
Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns.
(http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm)
(http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm)
Norwegian censuses of 1910, 1900,1875 (only partially online), 1865 and 1801 are online as searchable databases. Two websites with different search functions and strengths can be used.
(http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html)
(http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)
The detail available in the extensive parish church records is a marvelous gift from Norway. The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005. To be able to use the parish records you must first know WHERE in Norway you want to search for this documentation.
The Digitalarkivet web site - (http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar)
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
When you click on that link another page will present a short list of choices - choose "Read the digitized parish registers"[English version]/"Lesa skanna kykrebøker" [Norwegian version].
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].
Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
(http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html)
Norway has a tradition of publishing history and genealogy books for many rural districts of the country called 'bygdebøker'. You might be lucky enough to have had ancestors from one of the areas which has one or more good 'bygdebøker' published about it.
Learn about 'bygdebøker' (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/bygdebok.html)
Bygdebøker and Ættarbøker can be helpful but are definitely secondary sources of information -- any research done in them should be verified in the primary sources such as the parish church records.
Links and more links about Norway and Norwegian genealogy (http://www.cyndislist.com/norway.htm)
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wandahalvorson
Medium member
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96 Posts |
Posted - 23/06/2012 : 00:16:51
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| Thanks for all your help. Wanda |
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wandahalvorson
Medium member
USA
96 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2012 : 22:37:16
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| I was able to find Rasmus Stangeland...he's #72.... on the Emmigrant rolls for 1869, could you help me find which ship he sailed on and it's destination? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/06/2012 : 01:25:22
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He was on the ship "Erling Skjalgson", leaving Bergen, arriving Quebec.
Ancestry.com have him registered as R Nilsen Hangstand, born 1853.
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=erskj
Jan Peter |
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wandahalvorson
Medium member
USA
96 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2012 : 03:52:37
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| Confused about Rasmus' first wife Christine. I've got two different last names for her Hanson and Clementson, can you give me any information about her? |
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wandahalvorson
Medium member
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96 Posts |
Posted - 14/07/2012 : 19:58:12
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| When I click on Christina Hanson's name I get an error report. Can you help me with that? Thanks Wanda |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 14/07/2012 : 20:22:37
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Originally posted by wandahalvorson
When I click on Christina Hanson's name I get an error report. Can you help me with that? Thanks Wanda
Sounds like a problem with your browser. Does this link work?
Was Birtha his 2nd wife? Being born 1869, she was only 16 in 1885.
The 1900-census says Rasmus and Birtha married in 1885, and that she have 9 childen, of them 3 living.
1900-census for Lisbon Township, Yellow Medicine, MN:
R N Stangeland M 48 Norway Head
Bertha Stangeland F 33 Norway Wife
Alfred Stangeland M 18 South Dakota Son
Christina Stangeland F 16 South Dakota Daughter
Henry Stangeland M 13 Minnesota Son
Tilda Stangeland F 9 Minnesota Daughter
John Stangeland M 5 Minnesota Son
Halvor Bussesund M 82 Norway Father-in-law
Anna Bussesund F 75 Norway Mother-in-law
Nils Santorf M 27 Norway Servant
Rasmus' first wife Christena was born about 1858 in Norway.
Census-1880 for Minnehaha, Dakota Territory:
Robert Nelson M 28 Norway SELF (=Rasmus Nielsen Stangeland)
Christena Nelson F 22 Norway WIFE
Malina Nelson F 62 Norway MOTHER (=Malene Olsdatter, mother to Rasmus)
Nora Nelson F 2M Dakota Territories DAUGHTER
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wandahalvorson
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Posted - 14/07/2012 : 21:24:37
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Yes that link did work. Birthe Halvorsdatter, my great aunt, was Rasmus' second wife. The 1895 census shows that Rasmus and Birthe were married and 2 of his childrent by 1st wife, Nora and Alfred were living with them. Don't know where the youngest of those 3 were, as she shows up again on the 1900 census.
By 1900 Nora was 20 and no longer with family.
She married Hans Hanson of Sharon Township, Steele County, N.D. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/07/2012 : 21:35:48
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What else do you know about Christina, Rasmus' first wife?
It's hard to tell if she was a Hanson or Clementson. I assume they met and married in Dakota?
The submitter of the Ancestral File ("wtclark2258630") says only this about her: Christina Hanson, birth: 1858, Stangeland, Sund, Hordaland, Norway
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wandahalvorson
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Posted - 14/07/2012 : 23:03:08
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Don't know anything about Christina, but I just went over the passenger list of the ship that Rasmus traveled on and there is a Christine H??sdatter Haugeland (#256)age 5 on board. Her father is H Anderson Haugeland. That doesn't work with the age wtclark has, but isn't it possible he used the same age as that of Rasmus because he didn't have anything else to go on?
She would have had her first child when she was 16 or 17 which is unusual, but definitely possible.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/07/2012 : 23:12:38
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Well, you thought she was a Clementson. Where did that info come from?
I doubt she was on the same ship as Rasmus. The 1880-census list her as born in 1858. I guess Rasmus and Christina met and married in Dakota Territory in the late 1870s.
To know more about Christina, I think you need to locate either her marriage certificate with Rasmus, or the birth of one of the kids:
Nora Nelson, born April 1880, Medary Twnshp, Minnehaha, Dakota Territory.
Albert Nelson, born January 1882, South Dakota. (Medary Twnshp. ?)
Christina Nelson, born Jan 1884, South Dakota. (Medary Twnshp. ?)
Jan Peter |
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wandahalvorson
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Posted - 14/07/2012 : 23:31:58
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| The name Clemetson came from South Dakota Births 1856-1903 for Norah Otilda Nilson born Apr 3, 1880 in Minnehaha County. Parents: Rasmus Nilson and Christina Clemetson. It is confusing when other documents list her as a Hanson. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/07/2012 : 23:38:40
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quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
[quote]Originally posted by wandahalvorson
Was Birtha his 2nd wife? Being born 1869, she was only 16 in 1885.
The 1900-census says Rasmus and Birtha married in 1885, Jan Peter
Here is their marriage in MOMS:
YELLOW MEDICINE A-505 8/23/1885 STANGELAND, ROBERT N HALVORSON, BETSY |
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