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ckdaajd
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 Posted - 27/06/2012 : 19:58:41
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I have been unable to find ancestor Johan Anderson b. 7/1847 Hurum Buskerud. Married to Maren Torine Svendsdatter- Gulbrandsen b. 12/1868. They came to US in 1880 possibly arriving in June with their children. Katherine b. 1871, Ingar b. 1878, Karl b. 1875. I don't know if there was another child Jalmar b 1873 with them. Katherine was born in Selvik so I'm not sure if that's their last place of residence.
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Hopkins
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/06/2012 : 23:51:48
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Some info.
Strømm (Stream) was a sub parish in Hurum municipality but was separated 1838.
Svelvik town was separated from Strømm to its own municipality 1845, but these two municipalitie merged to one municipality, Svelvik municipality, 1964.
The name Strømm comes from the old farm Strømmen and is located to the west side of Oslofjord at the mound of Drammensfjord.
The "Strømm" Stream "Svelvikstrømmen" Svelvik stream, is a narrow sound of 200 meter where the Drammensfjord and Oslofjord are meeting.
In 1838 798 persons lived in Strømm, prior to the merger of 1964 where 2618 persons lived there.
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ckdaajd
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Posted - 28/06/2012 : 02:20:45
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| Thank you for all the information. I corrected Maren's birth date. Should be in 1846 or 1847. Maren's father was Svend Gulbrandsen. It showed Ingar as female and he was male. Thank you Kaarto for the information on the towns! Very interesting. Now I hope someone can find the passenger list. |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 28/06/2012 : 03:33:30
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Check in the birth/baptismal records online for Hurum in Sept 1846 for Maren's birth record.
Where did they arrive in North America? What details do you have of the arrival? |
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ckdaajd
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Posted - 28/06/2012 : 05:51:11
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| Census records from Chippewa Falls, WI show the family of Johan Anton Anderson as immigrating in 1880. I found a record from that local history center stating: Johan Anderson, born 1847 Norway, Date issued 1881. Decl. Vol C page 333, Port - June 1880 New York. File 1892. When I went to the University library to find this record they couldn't locate it and I live out of state. I've tried to search passenger lists for any one in the family and found no one. My Great Grandmother Catherine, called Thinka obituary stated she came with her parents at age 8. She was born in 1871. Her parents, two brothers and her are buried in Chippewa Falls. I'm wondering what happened to the other brother Jalmar Marinius Johansen b. 1873. Did he come withe them? I've found no other record except his birth in Svelvig according to 1875 census. I'm stumped. Did they typically change their name from Johansen to Anderson before they immigrated or after arriving? I'm stumped. Thank You for any help. |
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eibache
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Posted - 28/06/2012 : 10:29:15
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Jalmar Marinius drowned in Svelvik June 28 1878, see #2.
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Hopkins
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Posted - 28/06/2012 : 12:48:19
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To change their names all they had to do was USE whatever name they chose. Normal Norwegian naming of the time they would have been Johnsen/Johnsdatter but I'm sure they knew that typical American naming would expect the children to be called Andersen/Anderson to match their father.
There are over 15 Norwegian ports of emigration which have records of emigrants leaving. I've never seen any that were proven 100% complete. There is no guarantee that a record of their leaving exists in Norway. You can find more databases of emigrants leaving the various Norwegian ports at the Digitalarkivet website.
If Johan arrived through New York in June 1880 then record of that should be at least indexed through 'Castle Garden'. (Ellis Island didn't open as a processing center until 1892.) There is an online search capability for Castle Garden and photocopies of the orginal ship manifests would be available through either the US National Archives or through an LDS Family History Center on microfilm.
Castle Garden database online lists TWO Norway born "Johann Andersen" men arriving June 1880 on a ship called "City of Montreal" which sailed from Liverpool and Queenstown.
http://stevemorse.org/ellis/cg.html
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