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Marlon Henvit
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 Posted - 26/07/2012 : 19:41:35
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I am need of help with three translations concerning my ancestors Hans Olsen and Marit Østensdatter.
I think I have the birth of Hans, Vågå 1739 - 1810 page 49, 2nd column, 1st entry. Is this the birth of Hans Olsen? If it is a translation please.
I think I have the birth of Marit Østensdatter, Same book as above page 47. 2nd column, 2nd from bottom. Is this her birth? If it is a translation please.
This looks like their marriage, same book, page 114, 1st column 10th entry. There is a line after Marit's name that I can not read.
Thnks for reading this,
Marlon Henvit
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eibache
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Posted - 26/07/2012 : 21:25:54
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There is a line after Marit's name that I can not read.
it is the witnesses: Jon Eide and Tord Fogstad.
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eibache
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Posted - 26/07/2012 : 21:39:54
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I think I have the birth of Marit Østensdatter, Same book as above page 47. 2nd column, 2nd from bottom.
Østen Sivertsens daughter Marit was baptized July 24 1763.
Problem is I don't find any Marit Østensdatter 38 years old in the 1801 census for Vågå - should have been married to Hans Olsen. |
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eibache
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Posted - 26/07/2012 : 21:51:47
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I think I have the birth of Hans, Vågå 1739 - 1810 page 49, 2nd column, 1st entry
Ole Hansens son Hans was baptized July 29 1864.
In the 1801 census no Ole Hansen is married to Marit Østensdatter - was she dead and was Hans Olsen second time married to Tore Embretsdatter?
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Marlon Henvit
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Posted - 27/07/2012 : 17:26:26
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Hi Einar,
I know we have a problem here. I have two Mother's for Hans Hansen Pillerviken. One relative has the above mentioned Marit Østensdater. Birger Sivertsen and others have a Marit Christensdatter. Birger in his book "Hans Hansen Pillarvikens Etterkommere" page14 has Marit Christensdatter as the wife of Hans Olsen, he has no marriage date but shows her birth as1762 and her death as14 December 1848. That happens to be the same date for the death of Marit Østensdatter. Hans Olsen and both ladies in questioned lived long past the 1801 census. Tore Embretsdatter is a new name to me. If it would be useful to you I have the death of Hans Olsen in Vågå/Vågå 1827 - 1842 page 249 record # 54 and the death of Marit Østensdatter Vågå/Vågå 1842 - 1856 Page 194 record 1 for 1849. I am confused I hope this helps you make things not so confusing.
Marlon Henvit
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/07/2012 : 18:20:43
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Hi.
I think perhaps Kristensdatter was a wrong spelling for Østensdatter.
No son in 1801 named Kristen (if he was not dead) but a son Østen named after his grandfather Østen ??.
Children of Hans Olsen Pillervigen and Marit Østensdatter:
Ole 1788, Mari 1790, Østen 1793, Anne 1794, Hans 1798 and Peder 1800.
Hans Olsen and Marit Østensdatter engaged Mai 6. and married in Vågå church July 15. 1787, see left page, left chapter 6. from bottom here
Firtsborn son Ole born 1788, bap in Vågå April 27. 1788.
left page 9. line from top:
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Hans Olsens Ole
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.......Mod (Mother) Marit Østensdatter,
see here
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Edited by - Kåarto on 27/07/2012 18:30:57 |
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Marlon Henvit
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Posted - 27/07/2012 : 21:13:16
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Hi Kåre,
The children you list must be from the 1801 census which also says the wife of Hans Olsen is Marit Kristensdtr. I have found birth records of most of those children but not always corresponding to the census dates. I have Anne born 1791 Vågå 1739-1810 page 93, 1st column, 1st record. I have Østen same book, page 126, 3rd column, 4th record. I have not been able to find Peder 1800 and some show another Anne 1804. I have never found her.
Your naming pattern explanation makes good sense as does the death date for the two Marits leads me to believe Østensdatter is the correct one.
Thanks to both you and Einar for your help.
Marlon Henvit
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/07/2012 : 23:54:18
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Hi.
No doubt that Marit Østensdatter was Hans Olsen Pillervigens wife.
He died on Pillervigen as "Føderaadsmand" Oct. 30. 1836 #54 and Marit Østensdatter died as widow and "Føderaadskone" on Pillervigen Dec. 14. 1848, see "1.
.....mand means man or husband and ....kone means wife, they both had Føderaad which means they were former owners of Pillervigen and when the farm was handed ower to the heir, oldest son, they both secured themselves with a legal right on free supplies by the owner of Pillervigen as long as they lived as "Føderaadsmand" and "Føderaadskone"
Which means that Pillervigen was taken ower by the heir before Oct. 30. 1836.
Heir to Pillarvigen was Ole Hansen b. 1788.
in 1865 it was Østen Hansen b. 1793 and wife Thore Thorsdatter who had "Føderaad" free supplies, on Pillarvigen
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Edited by - Kåarto on 28/07/2012 10:34:04 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/07/2012 : 10:57:36
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Bachelor Peder Hansen Pillarvigen and Maid Guri Johannsedatter Tolstadeie had a son Hans Pedersen b. June 28. bap. July 9. 1837, see #52
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/07/2012 : 11:28:09
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Hans Pedersen b. 1837 grew up on his mothres recidence Tolsadeie.
He married in Vågå Gunnild Olsdatter Myrum Oct. 27. 1859, se bottom page #31
Lived on farm Teigen in 1865 with two sons, Ole and Hans and a dau. Guri.
Seems like they later settled down on Tolstadeie where a son Anton was born Nov. 24. 1873 and daughter Rønnaug was born Feb. 24. 1880, see #28
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Edited by - Kåarto on 28/07/2012 12:00:44 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/07/2012 : 12:15:14
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Hans Pedersen 1837 and Gunnild Olsdatter with Anton 1873 and Rønnaug 1880 lived as cottagers on farm Enkeløkken in 1900.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 28/07/2012 12:18:09 |
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eibache
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Marlon Henvit
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Posted - 29/07/2012 : 19:49:42
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Thanks to you both Einar and Kåre. But Einar you have now opened a new controversy. All literature seems to agree that Hans Hansen Pillervigen was born 15 March 1798. How could brother Peder have been born 4 March 1798? In his book Birger Sivertsen has a Peder born 28 July 1800. That would seem to agree with the 1801 census. Also Birger has an entry as an 8th child the following: 8. Ole f: Etter 1801 (folketellinga). What does that mean? I thought it might be a reference to the census but in that census there is no Ole.
Thanks for all your efforts.
Marlon Henvit
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