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cathe
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Canada
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Posted - 01/07/2004 :  23:26:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My mother came to Canada in March 1935 and the records only seem to go to 1925. The family lived in Sud Oslo.......... the spelling is probably incorrect but, that is south of Oslo. When the winter Olympics were help in Lilihammer Mom told me that it was about 60 miles from where she came from. The family name is Sander. I would really appreciate being able to find more information.

Thosten Jensen Sander 1807 - 1900 (Great great grandfather)
Ole Sigrart Tostensen 1851 - 1923 (Great grandfather)
Tosten Olsen Sander 1887 - 1958 (Grandfather who brought the family to Canada in 1935)

Cathe

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askeroi
Senior member

Norway
299 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2004 :  22:09:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Cathe.

I really would like to try to help. But why are you so afraid of giving information? How can I find anything when your mother's name, birth year and parents is a secret?

In the 1900 cencus there were 2 people carrying the Name Sander in Østfold, 16 in Akershus, 32 in Oslo, 2 in Hedmark and 1 in Oppland. And they are spread thoughout nummerous communities?

And do you mean 60 miles south of Lillehammer or Oslo. And why not give the distance in kilometer?

Please read Borge's rules...

askeroi
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Borge
Veteran Moderator

Norway
1297 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2004 :  19:15:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the family living at Søndre Odalen in Hedemark, on the Sander farm, as seen in the 1865 census. And here they are in the 1900 census

Børge Solem
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Borge
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Norway
1297 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2004 :  20:43:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Torsten Ols. Sander (b. July 3rd 1887) bought a ticket for America on September 19th 1907, and departed from Kristiania on the S/S Montebello on September 21st 1907. He was traveling alone and listed as "not married". He had purchased his ticket from agent M. R. Raffel for 282 Norw. Kroner. His final destination was given as North Dakota. He traveled via Hull in England and went by train from there to Liverpool where he boarded a transatlantic steamer belonging to the Cunard Line. Raffel was the general agent in Norway for the Cunard Line in 1907. Tosten is listed in the Ellis Island database as "Sander-Olsen, Thursten" arriving on October 2nd on the S/S Carmania

Børge Solem

Edited by - Borge on 07/07/2004 20:55:53
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askeroi
Senior member

Norway
299 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2004 :  21:28:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's good someone (Børge) reads better than I am. I thought it was a question of the grandmother's family. Sorry, it's the eyes that first turns blind...


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cathe
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Canada
23 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2004 :  23:27:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow......... that is my grandfather. This is overwhelming. I do not know for how long but, he was in North America as a young man. Apparently he travelled and probably worked his way around the US. When he emmigrated to Canada in 1935, it is said that it was actually his intention to settle in Minnesota where there is/was a large population of Norwegians.

Thank you so much,

Cathe
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cathe
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Canada
23 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2004 :  22:47:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi: It's Cathe again........

I am looking at the Census and would like to know the meaning of a couple of words please.

I see "Herred" and under it "Sondre Odalen". Can you tell me the meaning of those words?

Cathe
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
1100 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2004 :  23:36:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a link for Norwegian words geared to genealogy:

http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm
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cathe
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Canada
23 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2004 :  20:32:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you....... Some of the words are archaic but the site also helped with some of them.
Apparently my grandfather Torstejn Olsen Sander spent about 4 1/2 to 5 years in the US and then had to return home because his father fell ill. From what I understand, he was to inherit because he was the oldest son. Is there a way to tell when he returned to Norway from the US approx. 1911/1912?

Cathe
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cathe
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Canada
23 Posts

Posted - 13/07/2004 :  23:57:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went to the Ellis Island records in the U.S. records and the arrival confirms......... however, I am unable to find out when my grandfather returned home to Norway.

Can you give me any direction?
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cathe
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Canada
23 Posts

Posted - 21/07/2004 :  14:25:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone have anything on 'Petronelle'? The one I have is Petronelle Holgersdatter Moss 1811 - 1886.

Apparently Petronelle has some significance.

Cathe
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
868 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2004 :  21:52:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Petronille is Thosten Jensen's wife. Here they are on the 1865 census Click Here (Borge your 1865 census link went to the 1900 census )The census shows she was born in Søndre Odalen Prgj. but that could be wrong.
Carla
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
868 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2004 :  23:19:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The LDS IGI has a christening record Click Here for PETRONELLE and marriage record to Tosten Click Here
Carla
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cathe
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Canada
23 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2004 :  19:53:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much.............. That is absolutely the correct census with 'Petronille Holgersd.' Is there any way to figure out who her parents and family were?

You all have been so wonderful that I am afraid that I might be wearing out my welcome.
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cathe
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Canada
23 Posts

Posted - 20/08/2004 :  14:29:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been trying to play with the census myself and been unsuccessful.........

can anyone find: Mathilde Kvernstuen 1880 - 1963 wife
Kristoffer Kvernstuen 1870 - 1940 husband

Most grateful..........
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 20/08/2004 :  17:54:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
are you talking about the Norwegian 1900-census?

Were they [Mathilde & Kristoffer] married by 1900? Mathilde was only 20 then, so if she's not married by the time of the census, she will be listed by her maiden name.

Kvernstuen is most likely from a farm name, and could be the place where Kristoffer was born, but it could also be a place he bought as an adult. If Kristoffer did not live there by 1900, he could also be listed by his patronymic.

Jan

Edited by - jwiborg on 20/08/2004 18:01:49
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