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kathysigd
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 Posted - 30/07/2012 : 03:43:16
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I am looking for an emigrant Carl Edvard Heramb from farm Møllergaden farm #24, Christiana. I do not know the parish registers to check or the county? Is it Oslo only?
Thanks for any help.
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eibache
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Posted - 30/07/2012 : 07:13:22
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No dates were given, but the name is unusual. This leads me to think that the person you seek is living with his family in the 1865 census, he was then 12 years old.
Møllergaden 24, Christiania is the address at the time - Møller gaden (the mill street) Christiania = Oslo.
The 1865 census.
Carl Edvards parents is listed as tailor Wilhelm Fr Heramb and Annette Mathilde Jacobsdatter. Considering the age of the mother this does not seem to be right.
His siblings were Fredrikke Emilie, Caroline Emilie and Anna Marie.
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Edited by - eibache on 30/07/2012 10:44:28 |
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eibache
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Posted - 30/07/2012 : 07:31:04
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The family still living in Møllergaden 24 in 1875.
Carl Edvards brother, Fredrik Eugen, was born Sept 29 1881, see #133.
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Edited by - eibache on 30/07/2012 07:55:44 |
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kathysigd
Junior member
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Posted - 30/07/2012 : 08:28:33
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Thank you for your help. I am trying to find his emigration record? There is a Carl E. Herramb who immigrated to the US between 1875 and 1880. He married Anna O. Thoe. I don't know if this is the same person. I thought maybe there would be a record in the parish register. What parish register would I look in for this Heramb family in Norway?
Thanks again for your time.
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eibache
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Posted - 30/07/2012 : 08:37:05
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From Carl Edvards confirmation record is shown that he was born out of wedlock Febr 17 1854 and baptized July 16 1854. His mother was maiden Elen Marie Hansdatter, see #42. The last name is here written Hærum.
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Edited by - eibache on 30/07/2012 10:34:33 |
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eibache
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Posted - 30/07/2012 : 10:43:23
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Carl Edvard is not in the 1875 census as far as I have been able to search. He was confirmated in 1870, an emigration should therefore most likely be between 1870 and 1875.
He must have left Oslo (Christiania) - possible parishes are Oslo Domkirke / Vår Frelsers menighet, Trefoldighet or later than 1875 Jacob and Johannes.
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JaneC
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Posted - 30/07/2012 : 20:02:43
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On this link Carl Edvard Hærum was discussed before:
http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?p=70696
and here:
http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?p=76255
and here, where the discussion follows Carl's father's family back in time:
http://www.voy.com/188323/2/17.html
Unfortunately the discussion is in Norwegian.
The poster, Terje, must be a great-grandson. He writes: "Karl Wilhelmsen (født Carl Edvard Hærum i 1854) var min oldefar."
Per these links, above, Carl married Chatrine Arnesen, born 1855, Oslo, the daughter of tomtearbeider Hans Arnesen. I'm curious to know how Terje descends from Carl.
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Is this your Carl? (Carl in USA can be Charles):
1875 Minnesota State Census
Winona, Winona, Minnesota
Chas Herramb, age 22, born in Norway
http://people.mnhs.org/census/Results.cfm
1892 Seattle Washington census
C. Herramb, born Norway, about 1852, grocer
Hannah (Anna), wife, born Norway
Tometa, 8, born Dakota
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eibache
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Posted - 31/07/2012 : 08:15:04
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Storage worker Karl Edvard Herum (or Horum), born Febr 17 1854, was married July 7 1878 to maiden Katrine Lorentse Arnesen, born Oct 5 1855, see #41.
Cathrine Torense (Lorentse) and her parents in 1875.
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JaneC
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Posted - 01/08/2012 : 04:30:28
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So it's clear Chas. Herramb in Minnesota in 1875 is a different person, thanks to eibache's finding.
The C. Herramb in Seattle in 1892 is the person Kathy is talking about. Carl Herramb married Anna Oddsdatter Thoe in 1883 according to this link, below. Anna was from Voss. Source of information on the link seems to be the Vosselaget, a periodical published in America to help immigrants from Voss stay in touch with each other and with their home in Norway:
http://oiseth.org/getperson.php?personID=I3907&tree=dodgo
If Kathy's Karl is the same as the Karl born Febr 17 1854 then he immigrated AFTER July 1878 and BEFORE the 1883 marriage in Minnesota USA. Kathy, you say he probably immigrated BEFORE 1880 - did you have a reason for that date?
You have the 1900 USA census for Carl , Kathy (you mention it elsewhere online, but the transcription isn't posted anywhere). It states the year of immigration. What year did it say?
That census also states the MONTH and YEAR of birth. What date did it give for Carl? |
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kathysigd
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Posted - 08/08/2012 : 20:09:05
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Originally posted by JaneC
So it's clear Chas. Herramb in Minnesota in 1875 is a different person, thanks to eibache's finding.
The C. Herramb in Seattle in 1892 is the person Kathy is talking about. Carl Herramb married Anna Oddsdatter Thoe in 1883 according to this link, below. Anna was from Voss. Source of information on the link seems to be the Vosselaget, a periodical published in America to help immigrants from Voss stay in touch with each other and with their home in Norway:
http://oiseth.org/getperson.php?personID=I3907&tree=dodgo
If Kathy's Karl is the same as the Karl born Febr 17 1854 then he immigrated AFTER July 1878 and BEFORE the 1883 marriage in Minnesota USA. Kathy, you say he probably immigrated BEFORE 1880 - did you have a reason for that date?
You have the 1900 USA census for Carl , Kathy (you mention it elsewhere online, but the transcription isn't posted anywhere). It states the year of immigration. What year did it say?
That census also states the MONTH and YEAR of birth. What date did it give for Carl?
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kathysigd
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Posted - 08/08/2012 : 20:21:18
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| I found a Carl Herramb in the 1900 US census in San Francisco with immigration date as 1880 and birth year 1860. I found the Chas Herramb in 1873 census for MN and thought it may be him. I also found a record of a Carl Heramb in the Immigrant Bank Index in NY but not sure of the year. I only know that he had to immigrate before his marriage (daughter's birth 1883 in ND). I don't think he is related to the Carl Herramb in Oslo now. |
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kathysigd
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Posted - 08/08/2012 : 20:23:31
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| No month of birth is given in the 1900 census. |
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kathysigd
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Posted - 08/08/2012 : 20:26:43
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| Is it possible he could have been married in Norway in 1878 and then immigrated in 1880? It seems unlikely unless his wife died? |
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kathysigd
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Posted - 08/08/2012 : 20:31:39
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| I don't believe that the Karl Wilhelmsen (født Carl Edvard Hærum i 1854) in Oslo is my Carl Herramb. He apparently died in Norway. What other spellings for Herramb could I try? |
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kathysigd
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Posted - 08/08/2012 : 20:37:58
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| You are right. This is not my Carl Heramb. I have had contact with someone from this family tree online at ancestry.com and they said Carl died in Norway. |
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JaneC
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Posted - 11/08/2012 : 15:56:51
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Kathy, the person you sought in your query has been found.
QUERY: “I am looking for an emigrant Carl Edvard Heramb from farm Møllergaden farm #24, Christiana.”
ANSWER: “No dates were given but the name is unusual. This leads me to think that the person you seek is living with his family in the 1865 census, he was then 12 years old. Møllergaden 24, Christiania is the address. Carl Edwards [father] is listed as tailor Wilhelm Fr Heramb.”
Thus the original query is answered.
If this is not your Carl, the forum can start again, but please start anew by stating again who it is you seek. Tell all you know about "your" Carl. So far we know he had an unnamed daughter born in North Dakota, USA, in 1883. I'm not sure whether the Anna Thoe mentioned is connected to "your" Carl.
In my learning curve I've enjoyed encountering this writer so I"ll post a link; maybe you'll enjoy him too:
http://www.tedpack.org/goodpost.html
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Edited by - JaneC on 11/08/2012 15:59:51 |
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Searching Parish register for Christiana
