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Julie Harris
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 Posted - 10/08/2012 : 19:17:51
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| Lynda, I live in Houghton County and there are many Pirkola's that live here but no one knows about Kaisa's family before she married Gustaf Pirkola. This is all so confusing. We hvae gone back real far on the Pirkola side of the family and now want to find out about Kaisa's family. I do feel that Brita Kaisa is our relative who left on Trondheim and arrived in Houghton. Now I have to try to find more information. The name thing is confusing--different given names and surnames. I am pretty new with researching geneology but I am determined to find information on my family. Thank you for all of your help I am going to check out all of these sites. Julie Pirkola Harris |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 20:43:51
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This must be Kaisa Karhula's sister:
#2, Eva Lovise
Born 22.12.1874, Chr 28.02.1875
Parents: Kven, farmer and fisherman Peter Petersen Karhula b.1825/1835 and wife Kaisa Magdalena Mikkelsdatter b.1843
Source: Finnmark county, Sør-Varanger, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1873-1877), Birth and baptism records 1875, page 14.
Lovise Karhula (22) from Varanger, Finnmark emigrated to Hancock, Houghton, Michigan on 30.03.1898. Ticket paid in America.
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Julie Harris
Starting member
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 21:23:29
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| Wow, thank you so much for finding a sister of Kaisa's. I am having a hard time trying to figure out how to use some of these web sites. I appreciate everything. Thank you, Julie Pirkola Harris |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 21:30:38
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This could be Eva Lovise in the 1900-census for ED 184 Hancock village, east side, Houghton, Michigan, United States:
Head Eugene Langier M 39 Italy
Wife Louize Langier F 27 Norway
But: She is listed as born July 1873, and immigration 1895...
A daughter Agnes is born 1904. The family later moved to St Louis, Minnesota.
The one below seems more correct! 
Jan Peter
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 21:42:24
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Here is Kaisa Karhula's parents in census-1875
Per Karholæ, visitor, married, farmer and fisherman, b. 1836 in Kitilææ Finland, Russian nationality
Kaisa Magdalena Karholæ*, visitor, wife, born 1845 in Kitilææ Finland, Russian nationality
(Finland was under Russian government 1808—1919)
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Edited by - jwiborg on 10/08/2012 22:16:56 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 21:50:40
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| But no children listed for these parents? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 22:08:18
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Originally posted by jkmarler
But no children listed for these parents?
No, and I can't really answer that...
Kven people were a minority group, and the term "kven" were often used as an insult or a word of abuse.
Maybe the children were in care by other people? Or the census-taker didn't make notes of the younger people.
A = Sør-Varanger, Finnmark, Norway
B = Kittilä, Lappland, Finland
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 22:19:09
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| Kven is sort of like the pejoritve "spic' or 'wop" in America, then. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 22:24:46
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The birth record of Britha Kaisa list her father as Kven Peter Nil??? Karhula Salmijärvi ?
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eibache
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 22:35:07
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Britha Kaisa born April 2 1871, see #20.
Father is here named Peter Nilsen, Karhula. They were living on the russian side of Salmijärvi.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 22:51:42
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Originally posted by eibache
Britha Kaisa born April 2 1871, see #20.
Father is here named Peter Nilsen, Karhula. They were living on the russian side of Salmijärvi.
Your link goes to confirmation record from 1876? Jackie showed the chr link for Britha Kaisa further up. Strange that he is named Nilsen, and Petersen when Eva Lovise was born. But both these names must be Norwegianized... being born in Kittilä, Lappland, he would not be named neither Petersen nor Nilsen...
There is a reference to Salmijärvi when Britha Kaisa was born, and a ref. to Klostervand when Eva Lovise was born, Both these names refer to the lake Svanevatnet in Sør-Varanger, on the border between Norway and Russia.
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peder
Advanced member
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 23:19:09
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little bit more :
1910: Franklin, Houghton, Michigan
Name: Kate Parola
[Kate Paavola]
[Kate Rantamäen / Rantamaki]
[Kaisa Parola]
[Kate Povola] – [this on-line transcription from Ancestry is what it looks like as written on census]
Kate Parola 48, head, Widow, 8/8 children; b. Finland x3; spoke Finnish; Immig. 1887
John Parola 22 – children all b. Michigan
Mary Parola 19
Emil Parola 16
Helena Parola 13
Michigan Deaths
Name: Annie Kaisa Pekala
[Annie Kaisa Heikimen] Birth Date: abt 1882 Birth Place: Finland Death Date: 25 Jan 1904 Death Place: Adams Twp., Houghton, Michigan Death Age: 22 Occupation: Housekeeper Race: White Marital Status: Married Gender: Female Father Name: Heiki Heikimen FHL Film Number: 1008266
Michigan Deaths: [note married namd and parents surname]
Name: Kaisa Perkola
[Kaisa Karhula] Birth Date: abt 1872 Birth Place: Norway Death Date: 26 Nov 1902 Death Place: Franklin Twp., Houghton, Michigan Death Age: 30 Occupation: Housekeeper Race: White Marital Status: Married Gender: Female Father Name: Peter Karhula Mother Name: Kaisa Kustala FHL Film Number: 1008266
http://souter.smugmug.com/History/Family-Tree-Photos/15693406_DrCsn/1/1176258932_frXqW#!i=1176258932&k=frXqW
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/08/2012 : 00:32:19
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There is a reference to Salmijärvi when Britha Kaisa was born, and a ref. to Klostervand when Eva Lovise was born, Both these names refer to the lake Svanevatnet in Sør-Varanger, on the border between Norway and Russia.
Jan Peter
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Lake Svanevatnet is located to Nesseby
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